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ICISII

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Nov 1, 2004
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Bush
1.He has a proven record of fighting for our rights.
2.He is focused and has not strayed off path
3.His economic policy has CREATED JOBS.
 

Kibbo

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
I vote for you to add a poll, newbcheese.

Oh. . . My. . . God,

I agree with Felix.

Should I see a doctor?
 

Goosemaster

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Apr 10, 2001
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Kerry

Position and accountability
a. Bush may have received faulty intelligence, but that does NOT ABSOLVE him of accountability for his ACTIONS. He was elected to command, and did so knowing that he would have to take on the responsibility and accountability that came with the job. He made the decision, acted on it, and should not be immune from the liability that he has to his constituents.
b. The President not only alleged, but paraded as true the idea that Iraq had WMD. In fact, it seems as if this was not fact, but an allegation that has yet to be verified. Whether or not WMD exist in Iraq to the extent that the President alluded to, it is quite reasonable for doubt to arise concerning evidence that was spoken of as if in hand. Those who say otherwise are either defending their party to nonsensical ends, or know something which most of us do not. There may very well be a massive stockpile of WMD in Iraq, but with so much time passing without reaffirmation, the people have a duty to question his motives during a time when our troops are fighting to the death to defend reasoning which until now, still remains educated speculation at best.
c. Saddam, although perhaps a supporter of terrorism, is not by any means the man we were after, if justice was truly our intention. Accusing him of supporting terrorism while failing to accuse farther into the Middle East is not just short sided, but provides a plausible pretense for a subversive act. This is not an accusation of conspiracy aimed at the President and/or his staff and/or the military. This is merely an attempt to show how weak and questionable their argument is.


Preemption vs. prudence vs. recklessness
a. The President government may use the excuse of preemption for his decisive action, but that in no way invalidates the benefits of prudence. Prudence however, is generally of greater importance [with exception] when compared to preemption when it comes to intelligent international diplomacy in our time. We, as developed nations, have a duty to remain prudent for the sake of prolonging peace, a state of existence that humanity has suffered for so long to momentarily achieve. We have a right, and, by the demands of our own American heritage, a propensity to question decisive action that threatens peace. This is not meant to be an accusation of fault on behalf of the present administration or its head, but merely justification for questioning its actions. If actions were taken that serve to demonstrate not only haste and carelessness, but intentional abuse by this administration, then the defense of preemption should certainly be challenged. Settling solely on preemption as the basis for a war has proven to result in even more dead citizens, which is why the issue of adequate justification becomes even more controversial. As Moore hinted at but did not elaborate, how do you expect to justify more death to achieve peace without irrefutable evidence?

Let us remember that it is irrefutable fact that United States did indeed lose 3000 or so souls on September 11th 2001, just as it should be an irrefutable fact that it was necessary that thousands more die in retribution.
 

UglyCasanova

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Originally posted by: ICISII
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
I vote for you to add a poll, newbcheese.

I'M USING A MAC AND THIS MAC SUCKS. SORRY!

I am using a mac too, and my caps lock key works and I have no problems making polls!!!1

edit: oh yeah, Badnarik
 

ICISII

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Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: ICISII
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
I vote for you to add a poll, newbcheese.

I'M USING A MAC AND THIS MAC SUCKS. SORRY!

I am using a mac too, and my caps lock key works and I have no problems making polls!!!1

edit: oh yeah, Badnarik

Badnarik.. LMFAO!!!!

 

Siddhartha

Lifer
Oct 17, 1999
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Kerry
1. The Iraqi war, a lot of people currently in the White House have to lose theirs jobs for getting the US in that mess and for diverting resources away from finding and destroying the group that attacked the US on 9/11/01.
2. Bush's deficits\economy
3. Kerry's selection of Supreme Court justices
4. Separation of Church and State
 

Tab

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Sep 15, 2002
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Originally posted by: ICISII
Bush
1.He has a proven record of fighting for our rights.
2.He is focused and has not strayed off path
3.His economic policy has CREATED JOBS.

1) Fighting for your rights with the patriot act...

2) Focused? Why did we goto Iraq and forget about OBL?
 

nageov3t

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Feb 18, 2004
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Originally posted by: ICISII
Bush
1.He has a proven record of fighting for our rights.
2.He is focused and has not strayed off path
3.His economic policy has CREATED JOBS.

is this a parody thread?

I'm voting for Bush too, but those reasons are patently false.
 

Forsythe

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May 2, 2004
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Originally posted by: ICISII
Bush
1.He has a proven record of fighting for our rights.
2.He is focused and has not strayed off path
3.His economic policy has CREATED JOBS.

I'M VOTING FOR HITLER!

He returned our economy to working status!
He made it so we didn't have to pay any stupid fee to france and england.
HE WILL NOT STRAY OF THE PATH!!!
 

UglyCasanova

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Mar 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: ICISII
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: ICISII
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
I vote for you to add a poll, newbcheese.

I'M USING A MAC AND THIS MAC SUCKS. SORRY!

I am using a mac too, and my caps lock key works and I have no problems making polls!!!1

edit: oh yeah, Badnarik

Badnarik.. LMFAO!!!!

I missed the joke? :confused:
 

TravisT

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I am voting for Bush because I believe he has proven himself in a time of trial.
I am voting for Bush because I see that he does not waiver to terrorism and has a strong stance against it.
I am voting for Bush because he has moral values that match mine on stances such as abortion, gay marriage, and prayer.

I must add that I can not vote for Kerry for numerous reasons, but primarily because no one knows what he'll do when he's in office due to his inconsistent positions. I also believe with his stance on the war in Iraq, he will not be tough enough to fight terrorism the way it needs to be fought. And under his leadership, we will be spending more time on our heels here in our own country fighting terrorism, than pushing through to spread freedom in the middle east and giving these terrorists something to live for.
 

bozack

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Jan 14, 2000
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Bush,

Because he isn't a slimeball senator from Massachusetts and he isn't in bed with Teddy the Drunk Kennedy.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Kerry
1. The Iraqi war, a lot of people currently in the White House have to lose theirs jobs for getting the US in that mess and for diverting resources away from finding and destroying the group that attacked the US on 9/11/01.
2. Bush's deficits\economy
3. Kerry's selection of Supreme Court justices
4. Separation of Church and State

If anything that is the ONE reason not to vote for Kerry....hello justice Klinton...no thanks
 

HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: ICISII
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: ICISII
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
I vote for you to add a poll, newbcheese.

I'M USING A MAC AND THIS MAC SUCKS. SORRY!

I am using a mac too, and my caps lock key works and I have no problems making polls!!!1

edit: oh yeah, Badnarik

Badnarik.. LMFAO!!!!

The only thing that's funny is those that continue to contribute to a broken system.

I'll be voting Badnarik.
 

naddicott

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I'm voting for Kerry on the hopes that he can rescue our strangled Environmental programs and move forward on Global Warming policies, despite the fact that neither candidate has mentioned the environment much in this campaign. Bush's record speaks for itself, however.

I'm also voting for Kerry because I believe that he won't be resolute if he finds that every rational fact runs counter to his policy, unlike Bush who seems like he would never change his bad policies even if all research/intelligence showed him how wrong he was with 100% certainty (which in the real world doesn't happen - I still like the guy who stands behind the 95% findings over the one who sticks to the 5% possibility).

Finally, knowing that congress will still be Republican controlled, I'm voting for Kerry so there will be some mechanism for restraint on our out of control government spending. That sounds funny to say about a "liberal from Massachusetts", but clearly the republican congress/ presidency is unable to restrain its alarming rate of debt creation.
 

Chadder007

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Oct 10, 1999
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BUSH

Because of Taxes. I make only 28,000 a year and have benifited from the Tax relief. I have NO freaking idea where some loons are thinking that only the rich got tax breaks.....are you all very poor or something and didn't pay taxes at all????

Because of Iraq. I don't want Kerry to go in and pull out the troops within 6 months or be outsourcing the Iraq duties to countries that didn't want any part of it in the first place and have pledged already that they won't have anything to do with Iraq STILL. Kerry will get no more support in Iraq than Bush already has.

Because of his Supreme Court selections. I want someone in the Supreme Court that will follow the constitution and not try to make up their own ways around the laws of our land.

Because of the corruption of the U.N. Bush, though he has tried to deal with the U.N. is apparently well aware of the corruption of the U.N. currently. Kerry I believe will pander to the U.N. and fall in with the corruption of the crowd within.

Because of his Environmental Support of the Parks. With Bush's plan of cutting out strips within parks of tree's it only helps with stopping any spread of fires for when Mother Nature decides to take out parts of the forests herself.
 

Cogman

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Sep 19, 2000
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Bush, I have my reasion, and nobodys going to change who im voting for, and Spewing out my reasions for voting for bush wont change anyones vote here either.
 

BDawg

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I'm not voting for anyone tomorrow. I waited in line for 2h 45m on Friday evening to vote for Kerry.

1. Bush has ruined relationships with allies
2. Bush has made us the bad guy in the world
3. Bush unilaterally started a war for questionable reasons
4. Bush's economic policies are irresponsible
5. Bush squandered the national pride available after 9/11
6. Bush ignored a threat (bin Laden) while attacking a non-threat (Hussein)
7. Bush ignored a threat (N Korea) while attacking a non-thread (Iraq)

I'll be the first to say I'm voting against Bush more than I'm voting for Kerry. I like Kerry and think he'll do a good job as President. If I had my choice though, there are 2 other Democrats I'd rather it be (and at least one Republican).

Edit: Nearly forgot

8. I think the President should have at least an 8th grade command of the english language.