This Week in Appropriation: Kooks Burritos

[Mandres]

I have conflicted feelings about whether "cultural appropriation" should be taboo. For food/cuisine, obviously it's total nonsense.

Last year I went to an event at a wealthy public HS a couple of towns over. Their dance team performed a routine in the style of a HBC drumline/majorette show with stepping and African dance elements. It was 100% suburban white girls - not one black or brown face on the stage. I couldn't help feeling a little uncomfortable with it. It just seemed like it was in poor taste. Does that make me a SJW? I don't know, it's not really any of my business anyway, but I understand the conversation a little better after that day.

 

[Ancalagon44]

Why would such a dance routine be in poor taste?

Were they mocking or belittling African dance elements? Were people laughing? If so, then maybe it was in poor taste if they were mocking another culture.

If they borrowed elements? So what? This is how cultures grow, we borrow and learn from each other. If "cultural appropriation" were not allowed, cultures would stop growing.

You know if cultural appropriation were banned, this also means that cultures cannot borrow words from each other. Say goodbye to entrepreneur, trek and Schadenfreude. Heck barbecue is based upon the Spanish barbacoa as far as I know. We English speakers would have to police all other languages to make sure that nobody starts using the word Emoticon - because if they did, it would deeply offend us.

 

[FerrelGeek]

If it wasn't done in a mocking / ridiculing way, why would it be poor taste? There used to be an expression used years ago - 'Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery'.

The SJW faction of liberalism has gone bat sh!t crazy. My wife read an article several weeks ago about black women complaining that white women wearing large hoop earrings was cultural appropriation. She just laughed and said, 'I wore those back in the '70s. Lots of women did.'

I have conflicted feelings about whether "cultural appropriation" should be taboo. For food/cuisine, obviously it's total nonsense.

Last year I went to an event at a wealthy public HS a couple of towns over. Their dance team performed a routine in the style of a HBC drumline/majorette show with stepping and African dance elements. It was 100% suburban white girls - not one black or brown face on the stage. I couldn't help feeling a little uncomfortable with it. It just seemed like it was in poor taste. Does that make me a SJW? I don't know, it's not really any of my business anyway, but I understand the conversation a little better after that day.

 

[Vic]

If MLK were still alive today, he would personally beat the shit out of all these illiberals claiming that there is such a thing as cultural appropriation. I'm serious. He taught that people should be judged according to the content of their character, not the color of their skin.

 

[FIVR]

Yeah! MLK would BTFO all these racists trying to tell hard-working white men to go make money without copying somebody else's ideas. MLK was just like that, always willing to throw down. Until the liberals got to him. That's how I remember the 70s, anyways.

 

[Vic]

Yeah! MLK would BTFO all these racists trying to tell hard-working white men to go make money without copying somebody else's ideas. MLK was just like that, always willing to throw down. Until the liberals got to him. That's how I remember the 70s, anyways.

Get a clue. That we now have nearly infinitely perpetual IP protections is bad enough, but expanding such IP protection to arbitrary cultural boundaries is the literal antithesis of liberal ideals.
Should I, as a white Christian, be forbidden from using algebra because it was developed by a Arab Muslim? Should Arab Muslims be forbidden from using calculus because it was developed by a white Christian? Uh oh, decimal numbers and the zero were invented by Hindus, better stop using them. And this alphabetical system we're communicating with was invented by ancient Hebrews, we're going to have to stop using that too!
How many people, do you suppose, would ever even know about Robert Johnson's musical genius if not for Led Zeppelin?
Do we need to shut down Taco Bell?
I could go on and on and on. There is literally no bottom to the rabbit hole that is the absurdity of cultural appropriation.
I'll say this again. If you believe that a person's right to pursuit of happiness should be restricted on account of the accident of their birth, then you are not a liberal. By definition. Period.

 

[First]

Yeah! MLK would BTFO all these racists trying to tell hard-working white men to go make money without copying somebody else's ideas. MLK was just like that, always willing to throw down. Until the liberals got to him. That's how I remember the 70s, anyways.

Huh? Your posts fail basic common sense.

 

[FIVR]

Hmm I guess I just have less tolerance for posers and fakes. I think IP protections for both software and art are important also, and we don't need to shut down taco bell but it would probably be doing us all a favor culturally and nutritionally... so maybe?

 

[First]

Hmm I guess I just have less tolerance for posers and fakes. I think IP protections for both software and art are important also, and we don't need to shut down taco bell but it would probably be doing us all a favor culturally and nutritionally... so maybe?

You can't IP everything, and in fact even when you do they're frequently thrown out in court because they're written in such broad and indefensible terms as to be pointless. It's nuts to think you can IP cultural stuff like hoop earrings, burritos, cornrows, etc. It's dumb and serves no purpose, other than as a way to bitch about white supremacy. And that's certainly something that exists, but hoop earrings ain't white supremacist no matter who wears it.

 

[zinfamous]

Well, this is perfectly ridiculous.

The Portland Mercury should apologise for giving the idiots a voice.

Heh, maybe. I imagine the Mercury (local independent freebie?) is similar to the Berkeley Planet: A wholly entertaining opinion section where the most ridiculous voices of the community have their say. I always found it entertaining, but never had to deal with any of the nonsense becoming actual legislation. It seems that the voices in Portland are louder, though.

 

[zinfamous]

I have conflicted feelings about whether "cultural appropriation" should be taboo. For food/cuisine, obviously it's total nonsense.

Last year I went to an event at a wealthy public HS a couple of towns over. Their dance team performed a routine in the style of a HBC drumline/majorette show with stepping and African dance elements. It was 100% suburban white girls - not one black or brown face on the stage. I couldn't help feeling a little uncomfortable with it. It just seemed like it was in poor taste. Does that make me a SJW? I don't know, it's not really any of my business anyway, but I understand the conversation a little better after that day.

No, I see it as praise through adoption of good entertainment. When one group recognizes the value of another group's customs and art, it is adopting and the art gains a wider audience. The only way to logically and even morally define this as some sort of exploitation is if you are infringing on specific IP, or failing to credit actual owners appropriately, or even using the performers themselves in your work without appropriate authorship. The Stones and Led Zeppelin had to deal with these issues: sometimes legitimately, other times claims were unjustified (there is no claim to be made on tunes that are officially credited in "traditional" for example). And this goes on and on and on and well, perhaps more than any other country, America is at its best when adopting and mixing all of these forms.

There are very real cases when it comes to music and literature where you can't just lift content without appropriate authorship, but there is simply no justification, ever, to try and claim the same about food--especially if you are eating "American" food. I'm sorry, we have all the food, and it is made from all of the world's influences. The Portland snowflake that wrote this article needs to get a fucking life.

 

[Vic]

Well, this is perfectly ridiculous.



Heh, maybe. I imagine the Mercury (local independent freebie?) is similar to the Berkeley Planet: A wholly entertaining opinion section where the most ridiculous voices of the community have their say. I always found it entertaining, but never had to deal with any of the nonsense becoming actual legislation. It seems that the voices in Portland are louder, though.

Speaking as a Portland native, the city's current image problem is that it has been fairly recently defined in the media by people who never lived here, and that has caused thousands upon thousands of people to move here because they believed that definition was real.
The good news is that the city is booming economically. The bad news is that these newcomers are destroying what Portland was in favor of this Portlandia fiction.

And yes, the Portland Mercury and the Willamette Week are our local leftist independent freebies.

 

[dainthomas]

The Mercury is super-lefty even by Portland standards. Not shocked that they would do this.

 

[hal2kilo]

http://www.portlandmercury.com/blog...ropriation-kooks-burritos-and-willamette-week

Racist article calls out two white burrito makers for cultural appropriation which is a no no

http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2...-cultural-appropriation-stealing-recipes.html

So they shut down.


Why do people put up with this shite?

Damn Greeks appropriating Italian food. (Seemed like there at least in my experience were all kinds of pizza parlors are run by Greeks.) At least before the chains.

 

[WHAMPOM]

http://www.portlandmercury.com/blog...ropriation-kooks-burritos-and-willamette-week

Racist article calls out two white burrito makers for cultural appropriation which is a no no

http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2...-cultural-appropriation-stealing-recipes.html

So they shut down.


Why do people put up with this shite?

We better stop cooking with coco, tomatoes, peppers, potatoes and corn 'cause they be appropriated from the indigenous South American people. Tigers and lions and bears, oh my!

 

[Double Trouble]

Better stop using toilets, invested by some white guy. Cell phone? Yep, white guy. Internet? Bunch of white dudes. Algebra? Arab guy. Better stop doing that.

It's complete and sheer idiocy. It's one thing to think mocking something typical of another culture is not appropriate, but this whole appropriation thing is for idiots. How exactly could you have a melting pot if people can't "appropriate" things considered part of some other culture? Is there some cultural registry that keeps track of exactly what item/custom/food/idea belongs to what culture? All you have to do is think about it for 2 minutes and you realize it's for complete idiots.

 

[Blue_Max]

Better stop using toilets, invested by some white guy. Cell phone? Yep, white guy. Internet? Bunch of white dudes. Algebra? Arab guy. Better stop doing that.

It's complete and sheer idiocy. It's one thing to think mocking something typical of another culture is not appropriate, but this whole appropriation thing is for idiots. How exactly could you have a melting pot if people can't "appropriate" things considered part of some other culture? Is there some cultural registry that keeps track of exactly what item/custom/food/idea belongs to what culture? All you have to do is think about it for 2 minutes and you realize it's for complete idiots.

Exactly!

 

[Moonbeam]

What is this culture shit? We are all the same culture, a bunch of African apes that like to travel and develop local techniques. Anybody who doesn't like cultural appropriation should go back to pre-stone age. I'm going to see if I can patent the tortilla.

 

[Bitek]

Pussies took the article down, so I missed the read. Sad!

Anyway, here's another cultural appropriator http://www.rickbayless.com. He even admits it on his front page! On his PBS cooking show! The horror!

I will promise to burn all his cookbooks and never use all his awesome recipes and promise to only eat McDonald's or whatever shit counts for "real American" food. :/


"We’ve always been inspired by the mothers of the traditional Mexican kitchen. In fact, Fonda Frontera owes its names to the fondas of Mexico City, those rustic and family-friendly neighborhood restaurants often helmed by a family’s matriarch. As the Mother’s Day holiday draws closer, Fonda Frontera, 1471 N. Milwaukee Ave. in Wicker Park, will celebrate..."

 

[Bitek]

We better stop cooking with coco, tomatoes, peppers, potatoes and corn 'cause they be appropriated from the indigenous South American people. Tigers and lions and bears, oh my!

Shouldn't be cooking with those since we are on the American continent?

Cooking German, French or Italian is just appropriating European culture. Besides, they got their potatoes and tomatoes from here anyway... So they are the appropriators... So that's like, secret double reverse appropriation...

So confusing...

 

[brandonbull]

http://www.portlandmercury.com/blog...ropriation-kooks-burritos-and-willamette-week

Racist article calls out two white burrito makers for cultural appropriation which is a no no

http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2...-cultural-appropriation-stealing-recipes.html

So they shut down.


Why do people put up with this shite?

Because people have become scared of the Progressive bully machine. A vile creature with no known way to slake it's cravings for controlling everyone and everything.

 

[feralkid]

A NOTE FROM THE EDITOR (5/31/17) Dear readers: Due to new information that has recently come to light, we have taken down our blog post, “This Week in Appropriation: Kooks Burritos and Willamette Week.” It was not factually supported, and we regret the original publication of this story.—eds.

You've all been played.

Now calm down, lie back on the fainting couch and take your vapors medicine.

 

[OutHouse]

I cook Thai, Vietnamese, Mexican, French, Italian, Greek,, German, Hungarian, Peruvian, Columbian, Brazilian, and food from many other countries/cultures. Do I need to watch my back before planning my next meal?

cannibals gotta eat too.