This was quite a messy assassination

[Dari]

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8518481.stm

Dubai suspects' passports 'faked'
Passports belonging to the alleged killers of a top Hamas official in Dubai are fraudulent, the British and Irish governments have said.

Ireland said the names and passport numbers of three suspects did not match anything issued by its officials.

Britain said it believed the six British passports were also fraudulent.

Arrest warrants were issued for the suspects named by police in Dubai, where Mahmoud al-Mabhouh was murdered in a hotel room on 20 January.

Two more men, one using a French passport and one using a German passport, are also suspected of playing parts in the assassination.

The French foreign ministry said it was "not able to confirm the nationality of this person", according to AFP news agency.

German officials said the passport number was either incomplete or wrong, Associated Press reported.

Reports have suggested that Mr Mabhouh was in Dubai to buy weapons for Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas.

Hamas have accused Israeli agents of killing him.

A day after Dubai police announced the names of the Irish suspects as Gail Folliard, Evan Dennings and Kevin Daveron, a spokesman for Ireland's Department of Foreign Affairs said: "We are unable to identify any of those three individuals as being genuine Irish citizens.

"Ireland has issued no passports in those names."

The passport numbers had the wrong number of digits and did not contain letters as authentic passports do, he added.

"These purported passports are false. These are not genuine passports."


The Britons were named as James Leonard Clarke, Stephen Daniel Hodes, Paul John Keeley, Michael Lawrence Barney, Jonathan Lewis Graham and Melvyn Adam Mildiner.

But the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said: "We believe the passports used were fraudulent and have begun our own investigation.

"We have informed the authorities in the UAE that this is the case, and continue to co-operate closely with the Emiratis on this matter."

One man with the same name as a British suspect said it was not him.

Melvyn Adam Mildiner, a British man living in Israel, told Reuters news agency: "I am obviously angry, upset and scared - any number of things. And I'm looking into what I can do to try to sort things out and clear my name.

"I don't know how this happened or who chose my name or why, but hopefully we'll find out soon."

He added that he had his passport with him.

Two Palestinian suspects were being questioned about the murder. Police said they had "fled to Jordan" after the killing, without releasing their names.

Officials in Dubai said the team appeared to be a professional hit squad, probably sponsored by a foreign power.

They released CCTV footage which they said showed some of the suspects in disguises, including wigs and false beards, in the hotel near Dubai's international airport.

The suspects allegedly trailed Mr Mabhouh when he arrived in Dubai from Syria, paid for everything in cash and used various mobile phones.

 

[Fern]

If it was Mossad I'd bet that they knew what they were doing. The cameras would have been taken into account etc.

Personally, I don't see anything "messy" about it (yet).

Fern

 

[JS80]

They are brave heroes.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Now the agents' faces are plastered all around the world. Didn't Mossad realize that there are cameras everywhere, especially in a world city like Dubai? Next time take the guy into the desert and kill him.

There is not one shred of proof that Mossad did the assination...shame on you dari for not being able to back up your slanted opinion with the article that you posted!

As Fern stated -- If it was Mossad I'd bet that they knew what they were doing. The camera`s would have been taken into account etc.


You would do better attacking Obama while you still can...because once you enlist you can`t post jack about the Commander in Cheif......hehehe

Please enlighten us on the last time a Mossad agent was captured..not supposedly captured...

 

[moks78]

Please enlighten us on the last time a Mossad agent was captured..not supposedly captured...

"The Lillehammer affair refers to the murder by Mossad agents of a Moroccan waiter, Ahmed Bouchiki, in Lillehammer, Norway on July 21, 1973. The Israeli agents had mistaken their victim for Ali Hassan Salameh, the chief of operations for Black September.

Most of the Mossad team was captured and tried for the murder, in a major blow to the intelligence agency's reputation."... Text

 

[SamurAchzar]

"The Lillehammer affair refers to the murder by Mossad agents of a Moroccan waiter, Ahmed Bouchiki, in Lillehammer, Norway on July 21, 1973. The Israeli agents had mistaken their victim for Ali Hassan Salameh, the chief of operations for Black September.

Most of the Mossad team was captured and tried for the murder, in a major blow to the intelligence agency's reputation."... Text

Mossad agents also had issues in another country, maybe Switzerland, few years ago, and there was the incident with Haled Masha'al in Jordan around 1996.

Despite that, compared to the list of (known) successes, that's practically nothing.
Regarding Dubai, it's clear the guys knew they were filmed. None of the identities is real anyway.

 

[Dari]

If it was Mossad I'd bet that they knew what they were doing. The cameras would have been taken into account etc.

Personally, I don't see anything "messy" about it (yet).

Fern

Nobody's invicinble.

EDIT: I see my OP was edited. When was the last time an intel agency admitted to killing someone? I've never seen the moderation being so vigilant for such nebulous organizations. This is pathetic.

 

[JEDIYoda]

"The Lillehammer affair refers to the murder by Mossad agents of a Moroccan waiter, Ahmed Bouchiki, in Lillehammer, Norway on July 21, 1973. The Israeli agents had mistaken their victim for Ali Hassan Salameh, the chief of operations for Black September.

Most of the Mossad team was captured and tried for the murder, in a major blow to the intelligence agency's reputation."... Text

1973........ok you got me....but still 1973...
and in reference to the massacre of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics....

so touche..

 

[Dari]

1973........ok you got me....but still 1973...
and in reference to the massacre of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics....

so touche..

There were two others listed just below that post, Champ...

 

[fallenangel99]

Fascinating footage provided by Gulf news here..

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/assassins-of-hamas-official-caught-on-tape-dubai-says/

27 minute video of minute by minute analysis.

I wonder how the Dubai authorities got the names of those folks so quick

and how do you lock the door and latch it from the inside?

 

[SamurAchzar]

In many hotels (and surely in a police state like Dubai), you need to present a passport to get a room. From the surveillance cameras in the hotel, it's very easy to trace back the room owners.

Anyway, it just goes to show these guys knew exactly what they are doing.

 

[ZzZGuy]

A terrorist died, so why is there focus on the assassins?

Only differences between these guys and a predator drone operator in Afghanistan is they were in a city and had to get close personally.

 

[JEDIYoda]

There were two others listed just below that post, Champ...

They were both talking about the same thing...
I see your comment was edited for lack of truthfulness...least it wasn`t locked this time..lol

 

[Dari]

They were both talking about the same thing...
I see your comment was edited for lack of truthfulness...least it wasn`t locked this time..lol

I don't understand why the moderator that edited my OP has such a hard on for truthfulness when we all know no one is going to admit to killing this guy. Also, I had no idea an opinion had to be proven as truth. Anyway, no need in discussing this further since I don't have such a hard on for this story unlike certain people here.

 

[ichy]

Awesome job by the Israelis pulling this one off. They deserve to be commended and congratulated.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/16/mahmoud-al-mabhouh-murder_n_463667.html

with all the video cameras mossad assassinations just aren't what they used to be

 

[halik]

If it was Mossad I'd bet that they knew what they were doing. The cameras would have been taken into account etc.

Personally, I don't see anything "messy" about it (yet).

Fern

My thoughts exactly. They've had 40 years to get that game straight.

 

[Dari]

My thoughts exactly. They've had 40 years to get that game straight.

So having your agents' faces plastered all over the world isn't messy? Knowing how they operate isn't messy? They could not have done this in a more friendly country? Come on...

 

[halik]

So having your agents' faces plastered all over the world isn't messy? Knowing how they operate isn't messy? They could not have done this in a more friendly country? Come on...

Oh no,
I'm saying I doubt it's Mossad, I would expect them to play it off as heart attack or something far more innocuous.

 

[Dari]

Oh no,
I'm saying I doubt it's Mossad, I would expect them to play it off as heart attack or something far more innocuous.

Mossad's reputation has gotten the better of you. Mossad is not perfect. Samur provided some evidence to that. There is also a retired CIA agent I know that loves to drink. He's told me a few stories of some of their blunders. They are very good but they're not perfect.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Mossad's reputation has gotten the better of you. Mossad is not perfect. Samur provided some evidence to that. There is also a retired CIA agent I know that loves to drink. He's told me a few stories of some of their blunders. They are very good but they're not perfect.

given your track record when it comes to questioning your soon to be Commander in Chief......
There are all kinds of ways to disguise a persons looks as well as identitie...
Just for the sake of debate I would wager that even with this so called photographic evidence that they cannot place the rfaces with any known Mossad agents....wanna bet??

Also it`s not that hard hard being truthful when you are basing your commentary on what is in the article itself......or is it hard for you to be truthful...

 

[Wreckem]

I doubt it is Mossad. It looks more like an outsourced third party hit. Especially with two Palestinians arrested that are allegedly Palestinian Authority Security Officers having been arrested for aiding the assasins. Both the PA and Hamas are arguing the two palestinians belong to eachother.

My guess no one is ever successfully ID'ed.

 

[lothar]

The two detained Palestinians were Hamas operatives, said West Bank police spokesman Adnan Damiri, citing sources familiar with the investigation.

Hamas, however, claimed the suspects were linked to the rival Fatah movement of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas as part of alleged clandestine links with Israeli intelligence.

Don't forget this.

 

[Dari]

given your track record when it comes to questioning your soon to be Commander in Chief......
There are all kinds of ways to disguise a persons looks as well as identitie...
Just for the sake of debate I would wager that even with this so called photographic evidence that they cannot place the rfaces with any known Mossad agents....wanna bet??

Also it`s not that hard hard being truthful when you are basing your commentary on what is in the article itself......or is it hard for you to be truthful...

Perhaps, perhaps not. But now somebody out there has something, which is more than what they had before. Aside from images, I'm sure they now have height, fingerprints, DNA, etc... All I'm saying is that these agents may be compromised. And what's with fucking up the passports? Come on. If an alert airport personnel had noticed this, it could have been much worse.

 

[SamurAchzar]

Oh I'd bet 10:1 this is Mossad operation. Everything fits - the profile of the assassins, perfectly forged passports, a woman, getting into the room cleanly... it's a job of an intelligence agency, and a quite bold one at that. Add to that the fact that Israel is the only country with immediate interest to get rid of this guy (arms procurement manager for Hamas, allegedly) and it shouts "Mossad". For sure they knew there would be surveillance cameras, but I'm not sure they estimated correctly how determined the Dubai police will be in tracking the perpetrators down.