This should drive you all nutts. TOWER DEFENCE!

[ViviTheMage]

level 73 and I quit! haha

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: locutus12

Originally posted by: ElFenix

very few people knew how to write back when we kicked your asses out of here.

and at least our language isn't devolving into a series of the word 'fvck' like yours seems to be.

You've been watching too many British Gangster films, but i will take a recognisable English language interspersed with FVCK over an Americanised version of English overladen with trailer trash connertations and gangster hip hop slang any day of the week.

no, i've just ridden the train from glasgow to london. and read some articles about the popularity of estuary english.

and connotations doesn't have an 'r' or an 'e' in it.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
i have a screenshot of me hitting 83 somewhere. not on my work computer though. i'll try to hit up to 83 right now and post it.

Something like this? - b0defence.JPG

ya similar, except i didn't use the ice towers. it was nothing but the green towers.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

It's impossible to win..

There's a hacked version where green towers do 999999 dmg or so and you get unlimited money. Even then you cannot.. CANNOT win. The 1.25x multiplier becomes too great. Think exponents. Graph 1.25^x and you will know... I got to like level 150

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: locutus12

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: locutus12
bah, i searched for tower defence on the forums first too

learning how to spell defense would be a good start

actually i spelt it correctly smarty pants. Im in England. youl also finde the game is actually called TOWER DEFENCE not TOWER DEFENSE i.e. lame arse American brutalisation of the English language.

LET'S GO BOYS! GET THE TAR AND FEATHERS! WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP!

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
i have a screenshot of me hitting 83 somewhere. not on my work computer though. i'll try to hit up to 83 right now and post it.

Something like this? - b0defence.JPG

ya similar, except i didn't use the ice towers. it was nothing but the green towers.

I switch to ice as soon as I start losing citizens. They're a better value than all green towers except for the most upgraded green tower...

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: DLeRium
It's impossible to win..

There's a hacked version where green towers do 999999 dmg or so and you get unlimited money. Even then you cannot.. CANNOT win. The 1.25x multiplier becomes too great. Think exponents. Graph 1.25^x and you will know... I got to like level 150

I'm not sure what you mean by "win."

Even w/infinite damage, range, and money, you'd just keep getting to higher and waves.

For me, "winning" would be getting to level 90, but I have come to the conclusion that this is impossible without hacking into it

 

[b0mbrman]

This chart doesn't look very sexy without formatting, but you get the gist. If you want it in a tweakable format, quote me, then cut and paste into Excel


Type Level MarginalCost CumulativeCost Score
Fire 1 18 18 4
Leaf 1 15 15 4
Water 1 10 10 4
Fire 2 20 38 5
Leaf 2 20 35 5
Leaf 3 40 75 7
Water 2 20 30 8
Fire 3 30 68 9
Lightning 1 40 40 10
Water 3 40 70 12
Fire 4 50 118 14
Leaf 4 80 155 16
Fire 5 80 198 20
Water 4 80 150 21
Leaf 5 160 315 26
Water 5 160 310 29
Fire 6 600 798 35
Leaf 6 320 635 37
Water 6 320 630 39
Leaf 7 640 1275 41
Fire 7 1500 2298 49
Water 7 730 1400 49
Water 8 1000 2400 56
Water 9 1000 3400 60
Leaf 8 1100 2375 60


Conclusions:
Full-blown leaf is the best value in killing per dollar
However, a few partial water towers are the best value at their price point
A full leaf tower is more powerful than any combination of partial towers of equal cost
Flower tower data would have to be interpolated, probably based on fire scores due to their similar range. However, for their price, flower towers seem to be pretty worthless

[Edit]
Flower 1 3000 3000 ~48 (35 = x = 49)
Flower 2 5000 8000 ~51 (49 = x)

 

[b0mbrman]

Here's a score map:

scoreMap.JPG

 

[ForumMaster]

gah i hate this game! repost ofcourse. i never managed to get above lv60.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Here's a score map:

scoreMap.JPG

how do you read it? not sure how i'm supposed to interpret this.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Here's a score map:

scoreMap.JPG

how do you read it? not sure how i'm supposed to interpret this.

Higher score means that's where the towers do more damage.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Here's a score map:

scoreMap.JPG

how do you read it? not sure how i'm supposed to interpret this.

Higher score means that's where the towers do more damage.

ic.... i still can't get over 83 though. heh.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Here's a score map:

scoreMap.JPG

how do you read it? not sure how i'm supposed to interpret this.

Higher score means that's where the towers do more damage.

Yup. Specifically, if you stick a full-blown leaf tower at that spot and nothing else on the map, you'll get to the level displayed. This does assume that towers are independent, and I see no evidence to believe otherwise. I'm also pretty sure that towers never miss a target that is in range.

Scores in blue mean the tower couldn't survive in the buildup phase and I had to add a level 3 water tower somewhere to get the leaf tower to full strength...Thus, those scores are not exact. The actual score of that location is such that:

Score(displayed) = Score(actual) = Score(displayed) + 1

It will more likely be closer to Score(displayed) + 1



[Edit] The score map is based on full-blown leaf towers because, as you can see in my score chart, they're tied for the most powerful, and are 1000 less than the other thing with a score of 60.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Here's a score map:

scoreMap.JPG

how do you read it? not sure how i'm supposed to interpret this.

Higher score means that's where the towers do more damage.

ic.... i still can't get over 83 though. heh.

Yup. With some perfecting based on my score map, I can see someone getting to 84, but certainly not to 90.

This perfecting may involve getting all of your towers exactly on the edge, taking advantage of bugs (for example, sometimes this happens), or switching to water towers at the right time...or making a score map of semi-built water towers.

Oh, I also don't think it's possible to get a flower tower up to level 3.

 

[Matthias99]

Some searching turned up a vastly more balanced and far less buggy game along the same lines:

http://novelconcepts.co.uk/FlashElementTD/

 

[RaiderJ]

Originally posted by: locutus12

Originally posted by: ElFenix

very few people knew how to write back when we kicked your asses out of here.

and at least our language isn't devolving into a series of the word 'fvck' like yours seems to be.

You've been watching too many British Gangster films, but i will take a recognisable English language interspersed with FVCK over an Americanised version of English overladen with trailer trash connertations and gangster hip hop slang any day of the week.

p.s. its ALUMINIUM not Aluminum.

See the periodic table for proof. http://album.mjac.co.uk/albums/userpics/10001/periodic_table-2006-08-19.png
youl find it on the right hand side, second row down,

cheerio

I'll take British english over "eubonics" and "urban slang".

<-- American

 

[b0mbrman]

True

 

[chusteczka]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: locutus12
actually i spelt it correctly smarty pants. Im in England. youl also finde the game is actually called TOWER DEFENCE not TOWER DEFENSE i.e. lame arse American brutalisation of the English language.

...
and at least our language isn't devolving into a series of the word 'fvck' like yours seems to be.

WTF?

 

[b0mbrman]

Anyone progressing with this?

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Anyone progressing with this?

ive gotten as far as the mid-70s, but ive only done 20 games or so

 

[Amused]

I consistently get 82-84 using the best strategy.

 

[FoBoT]

dump the tea into the harbor!!

 

[uo7]

A version of the game you can actually win.

FlashElementTD

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Amused
I consistently get 82-84 using the best strategy.

Yup.

For the rest of you, here's 84: b0tower84.JPG