This normal or should I get another display?

Crow550

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I seem to be getting Ghosting or trailing....

This normal or is it the display? Video card setting? Cable? (using HDMI)

Just wondering if it's the display as I might as well return it and save for a better display if it is the display. Or is it normal and I just never noticed before?

I don't recall noticing this on my 27" LED LCD Monitor. This is a 32" LED LCD passive 3D HDTV display though.

Then again I don't notice it on my 47" CCFL LCD HDTV in the living room or 32" CCFL LCD in a Bedroom that another PC is dual displaying too.
 
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Durvelle27

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ok when viewing 3D on a 32" you at least have to be 6 or more feet away and directly in front off the tv. this should help
 

Crow550

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ok when viewing 3D on a 32" you at least have to be 6 or more feet away and directly in front off the tv. this should help

I'm more so 3ft or 4ft if I lean back.

I am more so referring to 2D. Even though I do notice in 3D as well.
 

Durvelle27

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yea 3FT and 4FT isn't good. when i first got my Vizio E3D320VX i use to sit close but it would ghost bad so i had to rearrange my room to get better distance. But for regular 2D use shouldn't have a problem sitting and viewing in any position.
 

Crow550

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yea 3FT and 4FT isn't good. when i first got my Vizio E3D320VX i use to sit close but it would ghost bad so i had to rearrange my room to get better distance. But for regular 2D use shouldn't have a problem sitting and viewing in any position.

I'm only talking about the 2D performance.

As for 3D it looks fine, however I still can notice that trailing effect.
 

Crow550

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if its 2D somethings wrong with the display

Yes that video and those pics I posted are when in 2D.

I also have to press the power button like two times for the display to power on. This is also the second TV I have replaced as the first had that power issue as well.
 

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Vizio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sceptre.

To say that, shows how bad Sceptre is. It must be as bad as Best buy's insignia. You get what you pay for when you don't spend the extra hundred or two for a name brand in TVs, in my opinion.

Vizio is a chinese brand that bypasses all american distribution and hardware, so when it breaks, there is no way to fix it. I'm not sure why one would pay $750 for a cheap TV when $850-900 will get you a name brand better set all around. I'm not talking down to anyone, but if you plan to keep the TV for a few years, wait another month to save for the right one.
 

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To say that, shows how bad Sceptre is. It must be as bad as Best buy's insignia. You get what you pay for when you don't spend the extra hundred or two for a name brand in TVs, in my opinion.

Vizio is a chinese brand that bypasses all american distribution and hardware, so when it breaks, there is no way to fix it. I'm not sure why one would pay $750 for a cheap TV when $850-900 will get you a name brand better set all around. I'm not talking down to anyone, but if you plan to keep the TV for a few years, wait another month to save for the right one.

I still can't figure out how they managed to source a LED backlight so badly designed that it dies faster than a CCFL. My guess is bad caps :biggrin:


PS, their move is probably on par with Samsung, except Samsung is better at packaging fuck off notice.
 
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Durvelle27

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i payed only $400 for my vizio 3D and never had a problem in the 2 years of owning it ?
 

Crow550

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Well it did get good reviews. It looks fine with video but yeah. I will be returning it.

Reviews of other Sceptre products seemed positive too.

I figured I would try it at least.

The company did say they would look at it. However the end of my allowed return date is also approaching. Plus I already exchanged one and the second unit is experiencing the same issues.

I did look at Vizios 32" but it was a CCFL and I want an LED backlit.

Oh well I will save up for something better.
 

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I still can't figure out how they managed to source a LED backlight so badly designed that it dies faster than a CCFL. My guess is bad caps :biggrin:


PS, their move is probably on par with Samsung, except Samsung is better at packaging fuck off notice.

Don't know what samsung did with china, but maybe they're using better parts - Samsung LEDs review very highly typically across professional review sources, whereas Vizio and Sceptre are the bottom of the rung. There are deals to be had with electronics, but in my opinion not down there.
 

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To say that, shows how bad Sceptre is. It must be as bad as Best buy's insignia. You get what you pay for when you don't spend the extra hundred or two for a name brand in TVs, in my opinion.

Vizio is a chinese brand that bypasses all american distribution and hardware, so when it breaks, there is no way to fix it. I'm not sure why one would pay $750 for a cheap TV when $850-900 will get you a name brand better set all around. I'm not talking down to anyone, but if you plan to keep the TV for a few years, wait another month to save for the right one.

Not that I particularly like Vizio, but you are wrong. From its wiki entry:
Vizio is a privately held producer of consumer electronics, based in Irvine, California, USA. It was founded in October 2002 as V Inc.[2] Vizio's major partner in the consumer electronics arena is AmTran Technology, a Taiwan-based OEM/ODM that manufactures more than half of the televisions sold by Vizio[3] and owns a 23% stake in the company.[3][4] Vizio also manufactures its products in Mexico and China under agreements with ODM assemblers in those countries.[5]
 

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In the case of the Sceptre products, even the consumer-reviews seem to be a good indication that you take a risk when you buy that brand.

On the Chinese manufacture. Here's my casual understanding of a history behind it. In this regard, I'm responding to a letter I saw in the LA Times today about "product reliability" and USA-manufacture. While I might agree with the writer's sentiment, I don't believe she "got it right."

W.E. Deming had gone around to American manufacturers to sell his "quality control" approach based on industrial applied statistics. That was in the late 1940's. They didn't listen. He started consulting with the Japanese, even when MacArthur was still Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers. By the late '70s, Iacocca was accusing the Japanese of "dumping" cars into the US market, but Deming's work had come to fruition: tolerances were tighter, and despite rust-prone body panels, you got high-quality for what you paid to get a Honda. Ford Motor jumped on the bandwagon in the early '80s -- I know, because I participated in a consulting staff working with Deming and Ford.

The entire point -- applied further toward consumer electronics -- is that "quality" requires a "culture." At the same time, ask any older Chinese what they think of the Japanese. They still remember the "Rape of Nanking." I think they're still undergoing a cultural transformation of their industry, too intent on short-run profits, lax on intellectual-property rights and government regulation of trade and safety.

So while there may be some good consumer electronics products coming out of Chinese factories, you're best to do some research on the history of a product's "reliability."

Sansui -- still based in Japan -- has supposedly outsourced some of its manufacture to China, and lost its reputation (it owned Akai and Nakamichi). It is now considered to be a manufacturer of low-end, mass-market products. We took a chance on a Sansui LED_LCD TV for a small den-room, and were stunned at what we got for the price. On the other hand, we're waiting to see how long it lasts.

As for ghosting, I've had Viewsonic, Hanns-G and Hannspree monitors, an LG HDTV and the 24" Sansui I mentioned. I've never seen this ghosting -- gaming, home-theater application or regular broadcast TV. Never seen it before. Yet I have a friend with an old one-ton Sony tube-style early HDTV, and he insists that he has "ghosting." I just think . . . it's time for him to make a trip to the Goodwill dropoff and then on to COSTCO or some place where they sell the newer technology.

By the way. If you are fond of shrimp on your dinner-plate -- get it from USA, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand or Mexico. But don't buy Chinese shrimp. Not if you value your health.