This kind of mind set worries me

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1prophet

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Pffft, they felt the same way when the brown man was in charge.

Armchair warriors FTW.
This is pretty much it.

This, the amplification of events due to the internet and social media along with the 24/7 news media that thrives on controversy these days makes it look like Trump is living to your right and the deplorable racist on your left if not in your head.

For some perspective the closest this country has come to civil war in modern times was during the Vietnam War era, and if they had access to the type of real time information we have today it probably would have.

Race Riots of the 1960s

Washington in 1969 hosted largest antiwar protest in US history

 

trenchfoot

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Damn, when Trump opened up the cages and dungeons full of racists, Nazis, religious nutjobs looking to "save us all", isolationist nationalist "patriots" and assorted other riffraff and told them that their time had come to "take back what is rightfully theirs" it looks like they took Trump's encouraging them to heart and they sure are doing their best job of it.

Well they like it that Trump is supporting their causes and those very wealthy folks who see the commoners fighting among themselves like it very much too, along with Putin who is at this very moment laughing his ass off at how easy it was to exacerbate the whole mess by having Trump as his leashed pet.

Who knew that Trump, his supporters and every Repub member of Congress would gladly ally themselves with Russia in order to keep themselves in power.

Is it really worth it? Really? Moscow Mitch thinks so. That traitorous self-interested and thoroughly corrupted relic is all in on keeping the useful idiot right where he is.
 

JSt0rm

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In any civil war the first thing that should happen is all russian embassy’s be emptied of humans.
 
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Jaskalas

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This, the amplification of events due to the internet and social media along with the 24/7 news media that thrives on controversy these days makes it look like Trump is living to your right and the deplorable racist on your left if not in your head.

For some perspective the closest this country has come to civil war in modern times was during the Vietnam War era, and if they had access to the type of real time information we have today it probably would have.

Such dismissive tone. "Makes it look like" is powerful stuff. Perception defines reality. And people's actions are driven by their beliefs. We now all believe the "other" side is the devil. And that Washington DC is a lawless power struggle for control and conquest over the other. With social media and 24/7 news banging the drum beat, keeps us "marching" on in ever increasing states of fear and moral panic.

We are rather irrational creatures, humans. We WILL let our fear sacrifice the nation. And then we rightly fear those who are afraid. Then they can fear us. Thus the cycle of the human condition carries on. What are we to do about it, pretend that an election can solve this? Whether Trump is President or not... the people who permit him will permit another. The stain on our institutions is not simply mended. The mistrust, the fear, and "need" to act against the "other" does not end. || Until we end them.*

*And how many people feel that way? That is the point of no return. When we agree to fight for power. Do you still trust the "other" to hold power over you?
 

BonzaiDuck

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That's a Winchester, not a Weatherby. But either is overkill for terrorists, whereas that 12 gauge will do the job just fine. Big bore rifle kick makes shotgun recoil seem tame too. I'd skip that purchase if I were you. Your wallet, shoulder, neck and non-detached retina will all thank you.

Law enforcement and National Guard will take care of it should the idiots get froggy. They won't really need any assistance handling the newly armed arm chair warriors dumb enough to commit armed sedition and treason.
No -- I'm pretty sure -- it's a Weatherby that uses a Winchester cartridge. The cartridges are about half the size of a hand grenade.

I got to fire one on a target range. It will put a half-inch hole through half-inch-thick sheet steel at some distance -- maybe a few hundred yards. And I'll never forget the experience or the rifle: you need a good shoulder pad for that thing. I felt like somebody had stabbed me in the shoulder with a hunting knife -- for about six weeks. I took pain-killers.

Maybe we could just follow through with Trump's Space Force idea. What would it take to convince the Trump Base that they are really from another galaxy, and need to go home? We could lure them up to some Mars-based transit terminal, and ship them off from there.
 

kage69

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No -- I'm pretty sure -- it's a Weatherby that uses a Winchester cartridge. The cartridges are about half the size of a hand grenade.

I got to fire one on a target range. It will put a half-inch hole through half-inch-thick sheet steel at some distance -- maybe a few hundred yards. And I'll never forget the experience or the rifle: you need a good shoulder pad for that thing. I felt like somebody had stabbed me in the shoulder with a hunting knife -- for about six weeks. I took pain-killers.

Maybe we could just follow through with Trump's Space Force idea. What would it take to convince the Trump Base that they are really from another galaxy, and need to go home? We could lure them up to some Mars-based transit terminal, and ship them off from there.

I still suspect you are talking about something else, likely a .458 Lott. A .460 Weatherby being involved makes me marvel at you having the hands, fingers and eyes necessary to post. ;)

Yeah big game guns are always a hoot to hand to those unprepared. As a 15yr old I was handed a double barrel .375H&H and told "You can handle it." Not funny.

I'm actually loathe to give Trump crap about the Space Force. I mean he has no understanding of anything and is completely lost like with any other topic, but China and Russia need to be countered and AF has enough on it's plate.
 

nOOky

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The extreme folks of the far right do not represent the typical right leaning keyboard warrior these days. If any trouble is stirred up by them I doubt they'll have any backing or any sort of a movement from mainstream conservatives that talk shit on Facebook. They would crumble in real life since statistically they are likely to be fat, out of shape, and mortgaged to the hilt. They just want to keep their crummy manual labor jobs and worship free from fags and brown people.

And if you've ever shot an M203 grenade launcher underneath an M16 it gives you one hell of a kick in the shoulder too, and it makes a pleasant "boop" sound.
 

feralkid

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Maybe we could just follow through with Trump's Space Force idea. What would it take to convince the Trump Base that they are really from another galaxy, and need to go home? We could lure them up to some Mars-based transit terminal, and ship them off from there.


Abandoned refrigerators might do the trick.
 
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Claims like these are empty threats. Similar to telling a child I’ll shoot you to the moon if you don’t quiet down! I’m serious.

Let’s pretend the day comes and the President needs to leave office.
He isn’t leaving his comfortable life to do anything. He is not going to go commando and start burning his friends & neighbors homes, he is not going to shoot at the cop he sees at the coffee shop he goes to.
He will sit in a chair and bitch about MAGA until he dies
 
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Greenman

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Claims like these are empty threats. Similar to telling a child I’ll shoot you to the moon if you don’t quiet down! I’m serious.

Let’s pretend the day comes and the President needs to leave office.
He isn’t leaving his comfortable life to do anything. He is not going to go commando and start burning his friends & neighbors homes, he is not going to shoot at the cop he sees at the coffee shop he goes to.
He will sit in a chair and bitch about MAGA until he dies
That's my take. They're just like P&N activists.
The reality is that changing the president won't change their lives at all. If no one told them, they wouldn't notice. The only real impact Trump will leave behind is the makeup of the supreme court.
 
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That's my take. They're just like P&N activists.
The reality is that changing the president won't change their lives at all. If no one told them, they wouldn't notice. The only real impact Trump will leave behind is the makeup of the supreme court.

Agreed, however I want to say I didn’t do any research. The chance of him acting like a moron multiply exponentially if he is in some militia or supremacy group.
 

ch33zw1z

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Claims like these are empty threats. Similar to telling a child I’ll shoot you to the moon if you don’t quiet down! I’m serious.

Let’s pretend the day comes and the President needs to leave office.
He isn’t leaving his comfortable life to do anything. He is not going to go commando and start burning his friends & neighbors homes, he is not going to shoot at the cop he sees at the coffee shop he goes to.
He will sit in a chair and bitch about MAGA until he dies

I would be incline to agree with you if Trump didn't pander to groups of people responsible for 3/4 of all U.S. domestic terrorism, and have been emboldened in the last decade by the GOP.

I think Jaskalas has it right, if there's any perception of "wronging" trump, there will be domestic terrorism incidents attributed to it.
 

Vic

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The extreme folks of the far right do not represent the typical right leaning keyboard warrior these days. If any trouble is stirred up by them I doubt they'll have any backing or any sort of a movement from mainstream conservatives that talk shit on Facebook. They would crumble in real life since statistically they are likely to be fat, out of shape, and mortgaged to the hilt. They just want to keep their crummy manual labor jobs and worship free from fags and brown people.

And if you've ever shot an M203 grenade launcher underneath an M16 it gives you one hell of a kick in the shoulder too, and it makes a pleasant "boop" sound.

Not disagreeing with you per se, but that "typical right leaning keyboard warrior" and the mainstream conservatives on FB say every day that extreme leftist groups (ie antifa) represent the entirety of leftism, liberalism, and the Democratic party, despite those extreme leftist groups having little to no support from mainstream liberals and Democrats. And equating antifa with mainstream Democrats has been effective fearmongering propaganda for the Republicans, despite being untruthful.
But OTOH these right wing extremists with their violent agenda do get open support from the "typical right leaning keyboard warrior" and mainstream conservatives on FB, as well as from right wing media and the Republican President himself, and you're saying Democrats should just give them a pass on that?
IMO that's not a good idea.
 

pmv

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Not disagreeing with you per se, but that "typical right leaning keyboard warrior" and the mainstream conservatives on FB say every day that extreme leftist groups (ie antifa) represent the entirety of leftism, liberalism, and the Democratic party, despite those extreme leftist groups having little to no support from mainstream liberals and Democrats. And equating antifa with mainstream Democrats has been effective fearmongering propaganda for the Republicans, despite being untruthful.
But OTOH these right wing extremists with their violent agenda do get open support from the "typical right leaning keyboard warrior" and mainstream conservatives on FB, as well as from right wing media and the Republican President himself, and you're saying Democrats should just give them a pass on that?
IMO that's not a good idea.

Seems as if the violent extremists go fishing for recruits among those 'right leaning keyboard warriors'. And, maybe as with Islamists, you can never quite tell who is a blow-hard fantasist and who will actually pull a trigger at some point. I can imagine there are conflicted and constantly shifting relationships between those groups though.
 

Jhhnn

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That's my take. They're just like P&N activists.
The reality is that changing the president won't change their lives at all. If no one told them, they wouldn't notice. The only real impact Trump will leave behind is the makeup of the supreme court.

You're right about their lives not changing, except perhaps for the better. You're wrong about the impact of Trump on this country & the world. The entire federal judiciary has shifted right for at least a generation. The relationship with our allies is in tatters. The State Dept & other agencies have been laid to waste. That's just for starters.
 

nOOky

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Not disagreeing with you per se, but that "typical right leaning keyboard warrior" and the mainstream conservatives on FB say every day that extreme leftist groups (ie antifa) represent the entirety of leftism, liberalism, and the Democratic party, despite those extreme leftist groups having little to no support from mainstream liberals and Democrats. And equating antifa with mainstream Democrats has been effective fearmongering propaganda for the Republicans, despite being untruthful.
But OTOH these right wing extremists with their violent agenda do get open support from the "typical right leaning keyboard warrior" and mainstream conservatives on FB, as well as from right wing media and the Republican President himself, and you're saying Democrats should just give them a pass on that?
IMO that's not a good idea.

I wouldn't say they should get a pass on that, but they use the same tactics for everything which is to deflect and accuse the other of what they themselves are doing. It's crazy how gullible these people are, to be so easily led and fooled.
 

JSt0rm

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You're right about their lives not changing, except perhaps for the better. You're wrong about the impact of Trump on this country & the world. The entire federal judiciary has shifted right for at least a generation. The relationship with our allies is in tatters. The State Dept & other agencies have been laid to waste. That's just for starters.

The chuds like all of those things.
 

dank69

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If I had the money and didn't live in a HUB apartment I would stock up on some firearms and ammo just in case the Alt-Right and Far-Right decides to launch The 2nd American Civil War.

Notice how both of them are the only ones predicting civil war if Trump loses.
Why? The military will put these dogs down in about 2 seconds if they start some shit.
 

JSt0rm

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Why? The military will put these dogs down in about 2 seconds if they start some shit.

It wont go that far. What will happen is like 10 of them will have a ruby ridge moment. Like 3 swat teams from surrounding metros and fbi will come in and they will go out in a gun fight. News helicopters will fly overhead and we can all watch it while drinking craft beers and eating postmates delivery.
 

whm1974

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Why? The military will put these dogs down in about 2 seconds if they start some shit.
That is assuming they are not already in the military in large numbers. Or are not younger vets with combat experience.
 
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It wont go that far. What will happen is like 10 of them will have a ruby ridge moment. Like 3 swat teams from surrounding metros and fbi will come in and they will go out in a gun fight. News helicopters will fly overhead and we can all watch it while drinking craft beers and eating postmates delivery.

Per the Buddy Boys it won’t even go that far. They’ll lock themselves up somewhere and get tired of eating what they thought were MRE’s bought from amazon but it turned out to be Chinese Dirt packaged to look like food.
They will disperse looking for nom-noms. Some will be arrested at McDonald’s others at Dominos and others will hide under a tarp like a child hides.
 
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whm1974

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It wont go that far. What will happen is like 10 of them will have a ruby ridge moment. Like 3 swat teams from surrounding metros and fbi will come in and they will go out in a gun fight. News helicopters will fly overhead and we can all watch it while drinking craft beers and eating postmates delivery.
There are enough them to keep the local Law Enforcement and FBI busy for a long time. They can still do some major damage.