This just in: Rebel terrorists just blew up the Death Star..

[Doboji]

Tauren-

Look dude before you panic, I'm not saying that The bombing of the Marine barracks was good... it was an evil from our perspective.

But lets get over our nationalistic biases for a second... reverse the situation.... America is getting hammered by a coalition lead by Iraq.... some US Commandos manage to get behind enemy lines and blow up a barracks full of one of Iraqi's elite fighting units....

Not so evil this time around huh?

Firebombing in reverse...
We're in a battle with Germany, and we as proud americans will not give up, so Germany drops thousands of firebombs onto new york city burning hundreds of thousands of people alive...

Not so easy is it?... The good and bad are all a matter of perspective..

-Max

 

[GasX]

Doboji - The fire bombing of Dresden was an unfortunate part of a war with many unfortunate parts. As a British citizen, I feel zero guilt, but that is another thread...

However, this bombing was between two countries AT WAR with each other. Furthermore, it was not the Allies that started boming of civilian targets it was the Germans. They had thus established new rules for conducting warfare.

This was NOT a terrorist act.



FYI - the bombing of the military base was not a legitimate military action as it did not occur between two countries at war. It was terrorism in its most simplest sense despite the military status of the target.

 

[Tauren]

Acts of terrorism are committed by cowards with cowardly ideals backing them.

 

[GasX]

So the Boston Tea Party was carried out by cowards with cowardly ideals?

You can be right and be a terrorist, but if you are caught, you're in big trouble because you don't get prisoner of war status.

 

[Doboji]

Pulling back...
And I'm also going to withdraw and change my opinion in that when two countries are not at war... military targets are not viable targets...

wow... which also changes my opinion of Pearl harbor...whew.. ok... catching my breath...

New opinion of Doboji:

Terrorism... is any attack against civillian populations OR attacks against PEOPLE military or otherwise when not at war.

Therefore the Marine barracks bombing was clearly an act of terrorism... and not a military action.

Pearl Harbor is then classified as an act of terrorism.

-Max

 

[GasX]

Well Pearl Harbor pretty much WAS a declaration of war, but if you are splitting hairs you could call it terrorism.

 

[Tauren]

Mwilding - Re-read my earlier post and you will find your statement to be asinine.

 

[IJump]

<< Terrorism... is any attack against civillian populations OR attacks against PEOPLE military or otherwise when not at war >>


So the US government practices terorism when it rains Tomohawk missiles in retribution for an earlier attack directed against the US? A country defending itself through strikes into the attacking country (To disrupt supply lines) prior to a declaration of war is practicing terrorism?

 

[uncouth]

Letting George Lucas decide whats right and wrong. /shiver

 

[GasX]

<< Mwilding - Re-read my earlier post and you will find your statement to be asinine. >>


Which post and which statement?

I stand behind everything I have said.

Calling a suicide bomber a coward is assinine. He may be nucking futs, but he has some SERIOUS cohones.

 

[Javelin]

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. It all depends on whose side you're on.

...and the latest news: Rebel terrorists blew up the Death Star again! The Emperor is missing and presumed dead. If anyone has any information regarding the status of the Emperor, please contact your local Imperial representative or call toll-free 1-800-Dark-Side.

 

[Tauren]

Mwilding:
<<Anytime oppressors are defeated, it's a GOOD thing. When someone is trying to help and a small group of extremists prevents that from happening, it is a BAD thing. >>

That one. And just because someone is so f*cked-up they think that what they are doing is right, doesn't make it so. Having big balls doesn't make what you do the correct solution to a problem. We are not now, nor have we ever been an oppressor.


[edit]It is spelled asinine[/edit]

 

[GundamW]

<< Actually, Tim McVeigh used the Death Star as a metaphor for why it was OK to blow up the Murrah building. In his words, most of the people working on the Death Star were innocent employees, but since they were working to further an evil cause, it was OK to blow up the Death Star for the greater good. >>



1) Tim McVeigh was not a Jedi.
2) Anyone who hears voices in his head and follow them needs to check-in to a psy. clinic.
3) The movie didn't address any innocent people (like captives/prisoners) trap in the Death Star before it was destory. If there were any, they could have been blown up too.
4) It was just a weak excuse to justify his(McVeigh's) action.

In the end, what has he accomplish by blowing up a building?

 

[GasX]

OK Tauren, I now know which post of yours is relevant. Now which one of mine are you talking about?



To be perfectly clear, terrorism is simply the political use of terror or intimidation. Oppression or the lack thereof has nothing to do with it.


And one other thing. When the U.S. government interned citizens of Japanese descent in concentration camps during WWII, is was most certainly being an oppressor.

 

[Clinotus]

Just to play devils advocate, these two definitions I got only seem to vary on the word &quot;Unlawful&quot;.

Terrorism:
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.


Rebellion:
Open, armed, and organized resistance to a constituted government.
An act or a show of defiance toward an authority or established convention

Just for the hell of it lets also add:

Insurrection:
The act or an instance of open revolt against civil authority or a constituted government.

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I suppose when any force is applied towards either defending your lifestyle in the physical arena (violence), all seems to be fair game.