This is why you shut your babies up on flights and don't recline.

[amdhunter]

Babies cry... what are you gonna do? :shrug:

Just recline your seat and try to tune it out buttercup.

Reclining the seat was the reason everything went nuts. lol

 

[MrPickins]

The baby didn't cause the "riot", asshole adults did (including the mother).

 

[KeithTalent]

they have that for the most part, it's called business class.

I don't know, that little curtain does very little to keep out the noise of the riff-raff in steerage.

KT

 

[Blackjack200]

That being said, all though it would be annoying to have a screaming baby on a flight; what can you do - punish the parent? Punish the airline? You just have to bear it.

Physically harming the parent (like in the story) is just awful behavior. And, if you can't handle the things that could go wrong with being packed into plane with hundreds of strangers; stay home.

Stay in your house, don't go out, don't do anything - because losing your shit over a crying infant is the problem, not the crying infant.

My view is that if a child cannot handle staying quiet for the length of the flight, they should not fly. All kids are different, some handle it well, others do not. A wailing child is an extrememly irritating sound.

That said, I totally agree that once you're on a flight like this, you just need to grit your teeth and bear it.

 

[K1052]

I don't know, that little curtain does very little to keep out the noise of the riff-raff in steerage.

KT

Unlimited alcohol and headphones are helpful.

 

[mmntech]

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/airplane_layout

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Can't they just store the kids in the cargo area?

I think about 90% of adults should be placed in the cargo area too.


He's a bold plan: Turn down the cabin oxygen levels to 75% and replace the missing oxygen with airborne sedatives or at least pot smoke. Most of the passengers will be asleep, the rest will be too mellow to fight and babies won't have enough air to scream constantly.

 

[amdhunter]

The baby didn't cause the "riot", asshole adults did (including the mother).

Not really. If that baby wasn't on that plane, this would have never had happened.

 

[poofyhairguy]

I hate little kids kicking on the back of my seat 10 times worse than a baby crying. I can't noise cancel a seat kick.

 

[manimal]

i flew my son to NYC to see a specialist when he was less than 1 and I was horribly nervous about him crying all the flight. He was in the middle of Colic and he had 3 hernias that kept him in pain all the time. The airline put me in the way back and he ended up being awesome and slept the whole time. The vibration and noise in the cabin was soothing to him. After that I used a wave machine in his bedroom and it helped him.

sorry offtopic.

 

[corwin]

Not really. If that baby wasn't on that plane, this would have never had happened.

If the asshole adults hadn't been assholes this never would have happened

 

[AMCRambler]

The airlines are only making things worse by cramming more and more people into smaller seats to maximize profits. Think about the stress levels this has to be causing. You're squeezed in from four sides, then the seat in front of you comes back and it's 10 inches from your face. Now a baby starts crying.

I can see people losing their minds due too all of this. Why not make a separate cabin with a door on these transatlantic(or pacific as in this case) flights where the moms can go to get their kids to settle down and not annoy other passengers. When the kid chills out they go back to their seat. It would also allow them some privacy for breast feeding and diaper changes.

 

[Exterous]

Geez people. Sometimes when kids start crying, there's not much you can really do about it. It's not like parents with a crying kid on a plane are EXCITED about their kid crying and disrupting everyone -- let alone bugging the shit out of the parent(s) themselves.

Lighten the fuck up.

I can definitively tell you that a surprising number of parents just don't give a shit and are completely disengaged with the child. While it won't work in all situations I have seen the issues mitigated by engaged parents but some just don't care.

That said crying babies rarely bother me as I long ago invested in noise cancelling headphones to retain my sanity

Apparently air rage is somewhat common in China.

Or just generally questionable etiquette. Just in the last couple of days according to this article:

A man on board a Chinese domestic flight caused panic when he opened the emergency exit just before take-off as he 'wanted some fresh air.'

Only days before, a Chinese man had opened the emergency exit and deployed the slide after wanting to 'get off quicker' from his China Eastern flight that landed at Sanya Fenghaung International Airport in Hainan.

a Chinese woman scalded a flight attendant by throwing a cup of hot noodles after finding out she wouldn't be sat next to her boyfriend.

 

[feralkid]

The ultimate "Don't make me turn this car around" threat.

Ha!

 

[purbeast0]

The airlines are only making things worse by cramming more and more people into smaller seats to maximize profits. Think about the stress levels this has to be causing. You're squeezed in from four sides, then the seat in front of you comes back and it's 10 inches from your face. Now a baby starts crying.

I can see people losing their minds due too all of this. Why not make a separate cabin with a door on these transatlantic(or pacific as in this case) flights where the moms can go to get their kids to settle down and not annoy other passengers. When the kid chills out they go back to their seat. It would also allow them some privacy for breast feeding and diaper changes.

i don't understand people who say things like this. i've been flying pretty regular for the past 12 years and i don't feel anymore crammed into a flight now than i did back when i started. nothing feels different at all to me other than having to pay baggage fees sometimes depending on the airline i take and where i'm going to.

 

[MixMasterTang]

This. Although it'd be nice if the airlines gave us the option to use theirs, but that will never happen.

Business class hands out noise canceling head phones. I prefer the in-ear noise isolation earbuds myself though.

 

[jayzds]

Not really. If that baby wasn't on that plane, this would have never had happened.

and you know? Adults are usually the problem and have seen more annoying things on a plane then a crying kid.

 

[KeithTalent]

i don't understand people who say things like this. i've been flying pretty regular for the past 12 years and i don't feel anymore crammed into a flight now than i did back when i started. nothing feels different at all to me other than having to pay baggage fees sometimes depending on the airline i take and where i'm going to.

Probably all of these dudes just got fatter, so while they feel like the space is shrinking around them, they are really just expanding and filling it up more.

KT

 

[Exterous]

i don't understand people who say things like this.

Why? Its true.

For almost 20 years, the standard setup in the back of a Boeing 777 was nine seats per row. But last year, nearly 70% of its biggest version of the plane were delivered with 10-abreast seating, up from just 15% in 2010.

And 10 airlines around the world now fly narrower Airbus A330 jetliners with nine 16.7-inch seats in each row—among the tightest flying—rather than the eight it was designed for

It (the average seat width) widened to 18.5 inches with the Boeing 777 in the 1990s and A380 superjumbo in the 2000s. Now, cost-conscious airlines are moving to lighter 17-inch-wide seats on their Boeing 777 and 787 Dreamliners and 18-inch seats for A350s.

As indicated, all of the Big Three—American, Delta and United—now offer at least some aircraft with a seat pitch of only 30 inches in economy. In years past, 31 or 32 inches were the absolute minimums. What's more, the roomiest pitch offered by the Big Three and Southwest (31-33 inches) are now tighter than they were at all four carriers in recent years, by anywhere from 2 to 5 inches.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304384104579141941949066648

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/columnist/mcgee/2014/09/24/airplane-reclining-seat-pitch-width/16105491/

 

[Squeetard]

Couple all of this with the fact that a lot of people are terrified of flying. I am surprised that we don't have more incidents of people freaking out.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Given my knowledge of China is based almost exclusively on Jackie Chan and Jet Li movies, I'm not remotely surprised that a country full of ninjas would choose to settle its differences through physical combat.

 

[PenguinPower]

My view is that if a child cannot handle staying quiet for the length of the flight, they should not fly. All kids are different, some handle it well, others do not. A wailing child is an extrememly irritating sound.

That said, I totally agree that once you're on a flight like this, you just need to grit your teeth and bear it.

So, how would you suggest that my two-year-old visit his family in Japan? There's no way he's going to stay quiet for the entirety of a 14-hour flight. Kids cry...chill out, or put some headphones on.

 

[alzan]

I think about 90% of adults should be placed in the cargo area too.


He's a bold plan: Turn down the cabin oxygen levels to 75% and replace the missing oxygen with airborne sedatives or at least pot smoke. Most of the passengers will be asleep, the rest will be too mellow to fight and babies won't have enough air to scream constantly.

^Winnar!

 

[amdhunter]

So, how would you suggest that my two-year-old visit his family in Japan?

Skype.

 

[KLin]

Point taken...let the butthurt continue:thumbsup:

But three words of advice:

NOISE CANCELLING HEADPHONES

Carry on...

FTW