This is why ATI rules in graphics....(AKA The Flammer's thread)

SamzAthlon

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Please read the following ariticle from business wire...

PORI, Finland--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 26, 2005-- An independent team of Finnish over-clockers has made world history by over-clocking a graphics processor to engine clock levels above 1 GHz. The record was set on the recently-announced Radeon® X1800 XT graphics processor from ATI Technologies Inc. (TSX:ATY)(NASDAQ:ATYT).

Noted Finnish over-clockers Sampsa Kurri and Ville Suvanto achieved graphics engine clocks of 1.003 GHz and a memory speed of 1.881 GHz (940.50 MHz DDR (dual data-rate) memory clocks) with maximum system stability and no visual artifacts.

The team, optimistic that higher speeds could ultimately be achieved with the Radeon X1800 XT, attained the record speeds using a custom-built liquid nitrogen cooling system that cooled the graphics processor to minus-80 degrees Celsius. "We're just warming up," joked Kurri. "But we believe that the Radeon X1800 XT has even more over-clocking headroom, and in the coming weeks we expect to achieve higher clock speeds and even greater performance levels."

"It's impressive to see the Radeon X1800 XT architecture achieve 1 GHz core speed and approach 2 GHz memory speed, which far exceeds the specifications of the memory devices," said Stan Ossias, Sr. Product Manager, Desktop Products, ATI Technologies Inc. "Once faster GDDR-4 memory arrives next year, users can expect to see the hidden potential of ATI's innovative new memory controller design complement our powerful shader engines with massive additional memory clock scalability."

A screen shot can be found at:
http://www.muropaketti.com/r520_ghz.png .

Radeon X1800 XT's extreme clock-scaling capabilities are made possible by a series of key innovations that include use of the state-of-the-art 90-nanometer semiconductor process technology, an efficient new Ultra-threaded Shader Model 3.0 architecture, and a revolutionary new 512-bit ring-bus memory controller.
 

n7

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Meh, that's like saying Intel rules cause you can OC their P4s to 5 GHz, & AMD can't.

Clockspeed is only one part of performance.

I'd rather take the lower clocked, 24pp 7800GTX myself :)
 

swatX

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are you familliar with the word "cherry-picking" ? if not go to urban dictionary.com or ask around.
 

SamzAthlon

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Originally posted by: n7
Meh, that's like saying Intel rules cause you can OC their P4s to 5 GHz, & AMD can't.

Clockspeed is only one part of performance.

I'd rather take the lower clocked, 24pp 7800GTX myself :)


Intels can be clocked to 5ghz? Didnt know that....
 

n7

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They've been clocked over 7 GHz actually, but i think around 5 GHz is the best people can run them 24/7.
 

Yanagi

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Worth noted they were using LN2 cooling and it required a couple of samples to achieve that speed. Also this is a Repost :)
 

Leper Messiah

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please post this flame bait in the video forum so that you can get rollowned.

EDIT: BFD. It runs stock at 750MHz, thats only a 33% OC. I did 50% with my 9800np WITH AIR!

 

Pabster

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:thumbsdown:

Come back when that card is available for purchase on a shelf :laugh: :laugh:
 

jiffylube1024

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This is not why ATI rules anything. It's a possibly (probably) cherry picked X1800XT on liquid nitrogen cooling. Most of us don't run $1000 cooling on our GPU's.

The numbers are impressive, but pretty much irrelevant. How the X1800XT retail overclocks on air will be an interesting issue...
 

Mik3y

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Originally posted by: SamzAthlon
Megaworks was right, here come the flamming....lol

i dont care if ati has a card that's nitrogen cooled & overclocked a million mhz. the point is, HOW IS THAT RELEVANT? its not. all that matters is air cooling in a system. why air? because that's the standard for cooling a computer component. then u can rush to h20 or whatever else. i'm not biased towards nvidia or ati. it just like whichever gives me the best bang for hte buck or whichever's better. name has nothing to do with what's better.
 

SamzAthlon

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Originally posted by: Mik3y
Originally posted by: SamzAthlon
Megaworks was right, here come the flamming....lol

i dont care if ati has a card that's nitrogen cooled & overclocked a million mhz. the point is, HOW IS THAT RELEVANT? its not. all that matters is air cooling in a system. why air? because that's the standard for cooling a computer component. then u can rush to h20 or whatever else. i'm not biased towards nvidia or ati. it just like whichever gives me the best bang for hte buck or whichever's better. name has nothing to do with what's better.


Look I have owned nvidia cards, ati cards and also 3DFX cards since the 1990's. I have learned from experience that radeon cards overall have a larger overclock potential than geforce cards. I am not saying they are the fastest, but in terms of crunching the clocks, ati give out more juice. Simple as that. Yeah sure clocks dont mean everything but this is exactly what the article is about, and it seems to make sense. Yeh sure they used nitrogen cooling and blah blah blah, but it shows an extreme side of overclocking.
 
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Originally posted by: SamzAthlon
Originally posted by: n7
Meh, that's like saying Intel rules cause you can OC their P4s to 5 GHz, & AMD can't.

Clockspeed is only one part of performance.

I'd rather take the lower clocked, 24pp 7800GTX myself :)


Intels can be clocked to 5ghz? Didnt know that....

yes they can

and this is a repost
 

Mik3y

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Originally posted by: SamzAthlon
Originally posted by: Mik3y
Originally posted by: SamzAthlon
Megaworks was right, here come the flamming....lol

i dont care if ati has a card that's nitrogen cooled & overclocked a million mhz. the point is, HOW IS THAT RELEVANT? its not. all that matters is air cooling in a system. why air? because that's the standard for cooling a computer component. then u can rush to h20 or whatever else. i'm not biased towards nvidia or ati. it just like whichever gives me the best bang for hte buck or whichever's better. name has nothing to do with what's better.


Look I have owned nvidia cards, ati cards and also 3DFX cards since the 1990's. I have learned from experience that radeon cards overall have a larger overclock potential than geforce cards. I am not saying they are the fastest, but in terms of crunching the clocks, ati give out more juice. Simple as that. Yeah sure clocks dont mean everything but this is exactly what the article is about, and it seems to make sense. Yeh sure they used nitrogen cooling and blah blah blah, but it shows an extreme side of overclocking.

true also. personally, it just depends on the different generation gpu's and memory and such. i find it hard for a company to keep consistent in such a way they own that reputation.