This is when self-employment sucks

[ThePresence]

12:23 AM and I'm still in the office. Been here since 8:30 AM aside from a half hour or so lunch break and a mini car accident.

 

[dr150]

Be happy in the fact that you don't have to put up with obnoxious stupid bosses like us cowardly cube rats undergo on a daily basis.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: dr150
Be happy in the fact that you don't have to put up with obnoxious stupid bosses like us cowardly cube rats undergo on a daily basis.

I have to put up with obnoxious stupid clients, who are not unlike bosses. I work for them.

 

[feralkid]

Try unemployment.

You'll soon wonder what the hell you were whining about.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: feralkid
Try unemployment.

You'll soon wonder what the hell you were whining about.

I'm not whining, I love what I do. I'm just remembering my 9-5 days.

 

[mooglemania85]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: feralkid
Try unemployment.

You'll soon wonder what the hell you were whining about.

I'm not whining, I love what I do. I'm just remembering my 9-5 days.

O RLY?

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Topic Title: This is when self-employment sucks

12:23 AM and I'm still in the office. Been here since 8:30 AM aside from a half hour or so lunch break and a mini car accident.

 

[Patt]

What sort of self-employment? I don't think I would mind longer hours if it meant I was the one truly profiting from my work.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: feralkid
Try unemployment.

You'll soon wonder what the hell you were whining about.

I'm not whining, I love what I do. I'm just remembering my 9-5 days.

so what is the difference

9am -> 5am

 

[Ns1]

oh. i thought this was going to be a thread about 15.3% fica

 

[KarmaPolice]

Whats your business?

I am doing my own thing now, but someday I'll probably take over the family business, sounds appealing to me.

 

[IGBT]

..people I know in business for them selves work 7 days a week,10 hours a day,have no sick leave or retirement and scratch out a blue collar income. Their cash flow looks great but after payroll..taxes and insurance it's a tough living.

 

[FP]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: feralkid
Try unemployment.

You'll soon wonder what the hell you were whining about.

I'm not whining, I love what I do. I'm just remembering my 9-5 days.

9-5 hasn't existed in this country in years unless you work for the government or are a part of a union.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: KarmaPolice
Whats your business?

I am doing my own thing now, but someday I'll probably take over the family business, sounds appealing to me.

Graphic design.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Originally posted by: IGBT
..people I know in business for them selves work 7 days a week,10 hours a day,have no sick leave or retirement and scratch out a blue collar income. Their cash flow looks great but after payroll..taxes and insurance it's a tough living.

That really depends on the business...A lot of small business fail, but some can really take off.

 

[dartworth]

Originally posted by: binister

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: feralkid
Try unemployment.

You'll soon wonder what the hell you were whining about.

I'm not whining, I love what I do. I'm just remembering my 9-5 days.

9-5 hasn't existed in this country in years unless you work for the government or are a part of a union.

Depends on where you work...

My wife is a graphic designer and works 8-5...

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: KarmaPolice
Whats your business?

I am doing my own thing now, but someday I'll probably take over the family business, sounds appealing to me.

Graphic design.

pace your clients expectations on regarding timeslines. Charge more for emergency rush jobs. They'll get it after a few abnormally high billings.

 

[markgm]

Originally posted by: dartworth

Originally posted by: binister

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: feralkid
Try unemployment.

You'll soon wonder what the hell you were whining about.

I'm not whining, I love what I do. I'm just remembering my 9-5 days.

9-5 hasn't existed in this country in years unless you work for the government or are a part of a union.

Depends on where you work...

My wife is a graphic designer and works 8-5...

I hate 9 hour work days!

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: KarmaPolice

Originally posted by: IGBT
..people I know in business for them selves work 7 days a week,10 hours a day,have no sick leave or retirement and scratch out a blue collar income. Their cash flow looks great but after payroll..taxes and insurance it's a tough living.

That really depends on the business...A lot of small business fail, but some can really take off.

Yup. Also,, just because you work 75+ hours/week, does not mean the business is failing...some people are just workaholics.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: KarmaPolice
Whats your business?

I am doing my own thing now, but someday I'll probably take over the family business, sounds appealing to me.

Graphic design.

pace your clients expectations on regarding timeslines. Charge more for emergency rush jobs. They'll get it after a few abnormally high billings.

Long time client needed a job done quickly and I had another deadline for another client. I will not charge a longtime loyal client more money for a rush job. They use me all the time.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Read the book called The E-Myth, it'll give you a different perspective on all this.

 

[Miramonti]

I didn't realize non-self employed graphic designers usually worked static 9-5 hours.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: jjsole
I didn't realize non-self employed graphic designers usually worked static 9-5 hours.

Depends on the job. I've had jobs which were strictly 9-5 as a GD. I've also had GD jobs where the times varied with the deadlines.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: KarmaPolice

Originally posted by: IGBT
..people I know in business for them selves work 7 days a week,10 hours a day,have no sick leave or retirement and scratch out a blue collar income. Their cash flow looks great but after payroll..taxes and insurance it's a tough living.

That really depends on the business...A lot of small business fail, but some can really take off.

Yup. Also,, just because you work 75+ hours/week, does not mean the business is failing...some people are just workaholics.

I didn't say that if you have to work that long its failing. My mom works all the time, and business is good.

 

[pradeep1]

If you own your own business and don't have too many employees, then working till 4:42 AM is not considered special.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: dartworth

Originally posted by: binister

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: feralkid
Try unemployment.

You'll soon wonder what the hell you were whining about.

I'm not whining, I love what I do. I'm just remembering my 9-5 days.

9-5 hasn't existed in this country in years unless you work for the government or are a part of a union.

Depends on where you work...

My wife is a graphic designer and works 8-5...

I'm a graphic designer/production artist and have those hours.