This is the cognitive test that Trump thinks is hard to pass but only a genius like him can pass

blackangst1

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Well, part of the problem is this wasnt an intelligence test. It was cognitive. The two are not interchangeable.
 
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Well, part of the problem is this wasnt an intelligence test. It was cognitive. The two are not interchangeable.
And yet he goes on and on about it like it was some superhuman feat. The doctors were shocked with how well he passed it. That's his words. They were surprised he based that basic test.
 

TheVrolok

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And yet he goes on and on about it like it was some superhuman feat. The doctors were shocked with how well he passed it. That's his words. They were surprised he based that basic test.

That obvious brag is most hilarious. The doctors were shocked he passed a dementia screen. That's a horrible negative thing to say, and the fact that he isn't aware/doesn't care is a positive screen in and of itself.
 

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Well, part of the problem is this wasnt an intelligence test. It was cognitive. The two are not interchangeable.

What's more important for a driver, knowing how an internal combustion engine works or being able to drive a car?
 
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Jhhnn

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Such a hard test! But Trump aced it! Making a big deal out of it shows that he's bugfuck crazy. Oh, and the pandemic will magically disappear. It already has. Ashes & embers. Dying out.
 
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Biden just needs to ask, why did your doctors want you to take a cognitive test? You know it’s only needed when there is fear of mental impairment.

Wait to see how red he turns.
 

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Trump "“the last 5 questions were VERY hard!"

You do have to account for Trump’s attention span. I’m actually surprised he got to the end without flinging poo.

One of the executive functions that it tests is the ability to multi-task, and we know he can tweet and shit at the same time, so there’s that. Simultaneously producing two different kinds of shit -- quite a talent.
 

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Serial 7s and trail making tests can be pretty difficult for someone with mild cognitive impairment. That said, scoring a 30 is not remarkable.

I'm surprised no one is challenging on whether he could have simply memorized the test, anyway. MoCA, MMSE, Mini-Cog (which is just recall and clock drawing anyway) are the only ones that I think are reasonably common in clinical practice. Not hard to practice and memorize unless you have more significant impairment. There are alternate versions of the MoCA. The version Chris Wallace flashed on his interview was one of those (usual animals are lion, rhino, camel). I wonder if he was given an alternate version. Of course you could memorize all those, too. Gets a little more difficult, though.

At this point, I've administered that test so many times, I probably could recreate it blind (and perform it too).

Regardless, Trump could have absolutely zero signs of aging in his brain. He has still proven himself grossly mentally incompetent to be President.
 
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So he can draw a clock that indicate 10 minutes after 11 o'clock. That's stable genius material right there.
 

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Leaked results:
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To be fair, how many here would expect Trump to count backwards from 10 perfectly? In fact I still dont believe it.
10 9 8 7 doing good eh 6 5 4 best you ever seen eh 3 2 ...


and you all know its true
 
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Jhhnn

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Serial 7s and trail making tests can be pretty difficult for someone with mild cognitive impairment. That said, scoring a 30 is not remarkable.

I'm surprised no one is challenging on whether he could have simply memorized the test, anyway. MoCA, MMSE, Mini-Cog (which is just recall and clock drawing anyway) are the only ones that I think are reasonably common in clinical practice. Not hard to practice and memorize unless you have more significant impairment. There are alternate versions of the MoCA. The version Chris Wallace flashed on his interview was one of those (usual animals are lion, rhino, camel). I wonder if he was given an alternate version. Of course you could memorize all those, too. Gets a little more difficult, though.

At this point, I've administered that test so many times, I probably could recreate it blind (and perform it too).

Regardless, Trump could have absolutely zero signs of aging in his brain. He has still proven himself grossly mentally incompetent to be President.

I'm sure Ted Bundy would have aced cognitive tests, as well. Didn't stop him from being criminally insane. Doesn't stop Trump, either.
 

TheVrolok

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At this point, I've administered that test so many times, I probably could recreate it blind (and perform it too).

Slightly off topic, but I've wondered about the positive predictive value of these screening tools in a population like ours with such familiarity. I've heard serial 7s so many times I have it memorized in a rote fashion.
 

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I don't think Trump has dementia. I think as a young man, he was of relatively average intelligence, possibly slightly above average, but with age he has declined to slightly below average intelligence.

A lot of people don't understand that Trump's narcissism, especially its extreme form, makes him functionally less intelligent than he otherwise would be. His actual functioning is less than the sum of his active neurons. For example, his widespread ignorance and lack of reading stems from the fact that he sees no value in information he doesn't perceive as directly benefiting him.

And stupid political decisions like tear gassing protesters while holding up a bible he never reads are things he does because he can't help himself. Not because he has carefully considered the decision and stupidly come to a wrong conclusion. Trump's behavior is controlled by his fragile ego. There are many situations where he is essentially incapable of making the smart call. It's why he ignores advice so frequently.
 
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I have a test for Trump that I'd like to challenge him with in front of a mic with no practice and no teleprompter. I'm betting it's going to look like one of those classic Chinese Kung Fu movies where the dialogue is out of sync with the actor's lips:

"A tutor who tooted a toot tried to toot two tooters to toot. Said the toots to the tutor it's hard to toot and to toot two tooters to toot."

I wager he throws an epileptic fit after the first five words.
 

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I have a test for Trump that I'd like to challenge him with in front of a mic with no practice and no teleprompter. I'm betting it's going to look like one of those classic Chinese Kung Fu movies where the dialogue is out of sync with the actor's lips:

"A tutor who tooted a toot tried to toot two tooters to toot. Said the toots to the tutor it's hard to toot and to toot two tooters to toot."

I wager he throws an epileptic fit after the first five words.
If tongue twisters are an indication of intelligence I'm a goddamn genius.
A skunk sat on a stump, the skunk thunk the stump stunk, the stump thunk the skunk stunk.
I just realized it's more difficult to type that than say it.
 
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