This is some messed up stuff

[disappoint]

it. Can't believe this stuff went on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

There have been numerous experiments performed on human test subjects in the United States that have been considered unethical, and were often performed illegally, without the knowledge, consent, or informed consent of the test subjects.
The experiments include: the deliberate infection of people with deadly or debilitating diseases, exposure of people to biological and chemical weapons, human radiation experiments, injection of people with toxic and radioactive chemicals, surgical experiments, interrogation/torture experiments, tests involving mind-altering substances, and a wide variety of others. Many of these tests were performed on children, the sick, and mentally disabled individuals, often under the guise of "medical treatment". In many of the studies, a large portion of the subjects were poor, racial minorities, or prisoners.
Funding for many of the experiments was provided by United States government, especially the Central Intelligence Agency, United States military and federal or military corporations. The human research programs were usually highly secretive, and in many cases information about them was not released until many years after the studies had been performed.

In 1941 Dr. William C. Black inoculated a twelve month old baby "offered as a volunteer" with herpes. He submitted his research to The Journal of Experimental Medicine and it was rejected on ethical grounds. The editor of the Journal of Experimental Medicine, Francis Payton Rous, called the experiment "an abuse of power, an infringement of the rights of an individual, and not excusable because the illness which followed had implications for science."[19][20][21] It was later published in the Journal of Pediatrics.

In 1962, twenty-two elderly patients at the Jewish Chronic Disease Hospital in Brooklyn, New York were injected with live cancer cells by Chester M. Southam, who in 1952 had done the same to prisoners at the Ohio State Prison, in order to "discover the secret of how healthy bodies fight the invasion of malignant cells". The administration of the hospital attempted to cover the study up, but the New York State medical licensing board ultimately placed Southam on probation for one year. Two years later, the American Cancer Society elected him as their Vice President.[47]

In 1966, the U.S. Army released the harmless Bacillus globigii into the tunnels of the New York subway system as part of a field study called A Study of the Vulnerability of Subway Passengers in New York City to Covert Attack with Biological Agents.[43][48][49][50][51] The Chicago subway system was also subject to a similar experiment by the Army.

 

[TridenT]

Lol, this is news to you? What kind of ignoramus are you?

 

[Crono]

Lol, this is news to you? What kind of ignoramus are you?

He cited specific examples. I know you are a self-taught genius and your mind is a vast library of information, TridenT, but not all of us are aware of those examples.

 

[disappoint]

Lol, this is news to you? What kind of ignoramus are you?

The only thing I don't know now, is what they did to you to turn you into this.

 

[lxskllr]

The only thing I don't know now, is what they did to you to turn you into this.

He thinks we're all new here, and haven't read his numerous threads that make you wonder how is brain has the power to keep autonomous respiration and heartbeat going.

 

[phucheneh]

Is it really, really terrible that I laughed audibly upon reading the 'experiment on 12-month-old rejected on ethical grounds by journal of experimental medicine...then published by journal of pediatrics' bit?

Pediatricians must be some fucked-up dudes.

 

[phucheneh]

Also, sweet jesus.

Throughout the 1840s, J. Marion Sims, who is often referred to as "the father of gynecology", performed surgical experiments on enslaved African women and other poor women, without anaesthesia. The women regularly died from infections resulting from the experiments.[1] One of the women was experimented on 30 times. His first operation performed after leaving medical school, was on the infant son of a farm wife. The baby had an infection in his gums and high fever, which Sims had no idea how to treat, so he decided to use whatever tool he had available, which happened to be an icepick. He jabbed the baby's gums with it and left. The next day he returned to the farm and found that the baby had died.

 

[natto fire]

Welcome to over 40 years ago? The next time you want to rip on someone's tin foil hat maybe you should stop to think about just how fucked up people will get in their seek of power?

 

[lxskllr]

Welcome to over 40 years ago? The next time you want to rip on someone's tin foil hat maybe you should stop to think about just how fucked up people will get in their seek of power?

Nah dude. That stuff happened way back in the dark ages; the 1960s! Things are different now. We're so much more evolved, and enlightened from those primitive times...

 

[disappoint]

Even the Canadians took part:

In 1957, with funding from a CIA front organization, Dr. Ewan Cameron of the Allan Memorial Institute in Montreal, Canada began MKULTRA Subproject 68.[121] His experiments were designed to first "depattern" individuals, erasing their minds and memories—reducing them to the mental level of an infant—and then to "rebuild" their personality in a manner of his choosing.[122] To achieve this, Cameron placed patients under his "care" into drug-induced comas for up to 88 days, and applied numerous high voltage electric shocks to them over the course of weeks or months, often administering up to 360 shocks per person. He would then perform what he called "psychic driving" experiments on the subjects, where he would repetitively play recorded statements, such as "You are a good wife and mother and people enjoy your company", through speakers he had implanted into blacked-out football helmets that he bound to the heads of the test subjects (for sensory deprivation purposes). The patients could do nothing but listen to these messages, played for 16–20 hours a day, for weeks at a time. In one case, Cameron forced a person to listen to a message non-stop for 101 days.[122] Using CIA funding, Cameron converted the horse stables behind Allen Memorial into an elaborate isolation and sensory deprivation chamber which he kept patients locked in for weeks at a time.[122] Cameron also induced insulin comas in his subjects by giving them large injections of insulin, twice a day for up to two months at a time.[104] Several of the children who Cameron experimented on were sexually abused, in at least one case by several men. One of the children was filmed numerous times performing sexual acts with high-ranking federal government officials, in a scheme set up by Cameron and other MKULTRA researchers, to blackmail the officials to ensure further funding for the experiments

 

[disappoint]

Welcome to over 40 years ago?

Welcome to almost 4 years ago. You probably won't find out what they are doing now until 20-40 years from now. They are pretty good at covering stuff up for a little while.

In August 2010, the U.S. weapons manufacturer Raytheon announced that it had partnered with a jail in Castaic, California in order to use prisoners as test subjects for a new non-lethal weapon system that "fires an invisible heat beam capable of causing unbearable pain."

 

[phucheneh]

Even the Canadians took part:

...okay, MKUltra is kind of one you should probably already know.

I've always assumed that this was inspired by the MKUltra drug experiments

 

[clamum]

Obama did Sandy Hook! C'mon people, wake up, do some research!

 

[Anonemous]

Wait till you get to the part of GMOs and corn... one giant experiment.

 

[busydude]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

The Tuskegee syphilis experiment[1] was an infamous clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the U.S. Public Health Service to study the natural progression of untreated syphilis in rural African American men who thought they were receiving free health care from the U.S. government.[1]
The Public Health Service, working with the Tuskegee Institute, began the study in 1932. Investigators enrolled in the study a total of 600 impoverished sharecroppers from Macon County, Alabama; 399 who had previously contracted syphilis before the study began, and 201[2] without the disease. For participating in the study, the men were given free medical care, meals, and free burial insurance. They were never told they had syphilis, nor were they ever treated for it. According to the Centers for Disease Control, the men were told they were being treated for "bad blood", a local term for various illnesses that include syphilis, anemia, and fatigue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala_syphilis_experiment

The syphilis experiments in Guatemala were United States-led human experiments conducted in Guatemala from 1946 to 1948, during the administration of President Truman and President Juan José Arévalo with the cooperation of some Guatemalan health ministries and officials.[1] Doctors infected soldiers, prostitutes, prisoners and mental patients with syphilis and other sexually transmitted diseases, without the informed consent of the subjects, and treated most subjects with antibiotics. This resulted in at least 83 deaths.[2] In October 2010, the U.S. formally apologized to Guatemala for conducting these experiments.

 

[Crono]

There are always people committing evil in the name of _______.
Fill in the blank with whatever. Religion, politics, freedom, justice, and even science. Take anything good and pure, twist it for whatever purpose you deem favorable.

That's what evil is: taking what is natural and using it for gain without regard (or enough regard) to morality. We human beings will justify the perverse and atrocities with almost anything.
So while these kinds of experiments aren't surprising, they are horrifying. I don't think anything can really shock me after reading about what the Nazis did during the Holocaust.

It wouldn't surprise me if I'm watching the news tomorrow and learn about some new questionable experiments going on here in the United States or somewhere else. Which is why I think it's good we ask the questions and are aware what's going on legally and even illegally in the name of science. A lot of good medical advancements are being made, but there are lot of areas where medical technology is taking us toward the realm of science fiction; most are good experiments and studies, but I'm sure there are some shady things going on even in our own backyards, or so to speak.

 

[destrekor]

Welcome to almost 4 years ago. You probably won't find out what they are doing now until 20-40 years from now. They are pretty good at covering stuff up for a little while.

Yeah, except the "Pain Beam" and similar crowd-control devices, and the experiments to validate their efficacy, are on a totally different level than these other experiments.

 

[leper84]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AIOF5R-7rx8

 

[FaaR]

Obama did Sandy Hook! C'mon people, wake up, do some research!

Yes, he did! He went there, held that assault rifle himself, fired at those kids, and he laughed, LAUGHED! the whole time as he shot them and reloaded repeatedly.

...Oh. You were being sarcastic? I was unable to tell, seeing as this is anandtech P&N forums, home of the mentally ill and deranged.

 

[disappoint]

Yeah, except the "Pain Beam" and similar crowd-control devices, and the experiments to validate their efficacy, are on a totally different level than these other experiments.

That depends on if that pain beam also causes irreversible side effects in humans that will affect them for the rest of their lives.

 

[zanejohnson]

That depends on if that pain beam also causes irreversible side effects in humans that will affect them for the rest of their lives.

lol and you dont think that later we will figure out that it does...

or better yet people will sue saying it does with fancy lawyers, furthur damaging our nation?

it's basically a lose lose, and will ONLY lead to negative building upon negative..

 

[Pr0d1gy]

http://news.yahoo.com/st-louis-cold-war-radiation-experiments-may-caused-165500039.html

And yet they persecute conspiracy theorists....


pfft

 

[PokerGuy]

Despite our increasingly sophisticated veneer of civility, humans have always been and will continue to be capable of the most savage acts. Give people power, and they will inevitably use that power to hurt or harm others. It really doesn't matter what group of people it is (religion, government etc), and how they acquire the power, without effective oversight and checks on power, it will be abused.

 

[Linux23]

Hey, gotta break some eggs, I guess.

 

[waggy]

Welcome to over 40 years ago? The next time you want to rip on someone's tin foil hat maybe you should stop to think about just how fucked up people will get in their seek of power?

I laugh of conspiracy nuts. then i remember a paper i did on the Tuskegee experiments i did in college.

I try not to dismiss them right off the bat.