this is really hard to watch: 4 Gaza kids on a beach killed by Israeli gunboat

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Matt1970

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Isn't that all the places that Hamas stages it's attacks from? And exactly where do you think those rockets that Hamas fires are aimed at?
 

cabri

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Which relates to Israelis gunning down un-armed kids on a beach in what way, exactly?

How about letting all the facts be known before jumping to judgment.

Where the Israelis were actually on the beach themselves shooting at the kids or were shells being lobbed and the kids were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Were they actually being targeted?
What was the target and why?
 

Brovane

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Which relates to Israelis gunning down un-armed kids on a beach in what way, exactly?

When you fire rockets off right by un-armed kids bad things can happen when the people you are firing the rockets off at retaliate.

Also because people like you are silent when HAMAS fires off rockets indiscriminately into Israeli(Which it does regularly) but become morally outraged when Palestinian civilians get hurt by the Israeli retaliation.

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Brovane

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Have you no shame? No sense of decency at all?

Didn't on Tuesday Israeli accept a proposed cease fire and adopted the proposal unilaterally? Let's see what happened? Oh that is right HAMAS continued firing rockets into Israeli.
 

Brovane

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You forgot "..But murders kids anyway because its fun" under the Jewish side. Which is something you obviously support.

You forgot the part about HAMAS using woman and children as human shields. This is obviously something you support.
 

IronWing

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You forgot the part about HAMAS using woman and children as human shields. This is obviously something you support.
By that logic Israel is also using women and children as shields or Israeli women and children wouldn't be endangered by Hamas rockets.
 

Matt1970

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Which relates to Israelis gunning down un-armed kids on a beach in what way, exactly?

Also because people like you are silent when HAMAS fires off rockets indiscriminately into Israeli(Which it does regularly) but become morally outraged when Palestinian civilians get hurt by the Israeli retaliation.

That kind of puts it all into perspective doesn't it? Also, where is the outrage when Hamas recruits kids to strap on bombs and sets them off in cafes or streets crowded with civilians?
 

Brovane

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By that logic Israel is also using women and children as shields or Israeli women and children wouldn't be endangered by Hamas rockets.

No, Israeli doesn't put it's artillery right next to civilian housing. HAMAS aim's it rockets at a city.Congratulations on your logical failure.

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Zorkorist

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No,

Because they are Religious.

It's Religion that compares one man against another.

It's Religion that declares the other is sub-human.

-John
 
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Jhhnn

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Truth hurts. Answer the question then - where are the rockets being fired from?
Open fields, rooftops, parking lots?

Yep. No shame at all.

The current round of violence came as Israel retaliated for the deaths of 3 Israeli teens in Jerusalem, which is not under Hamas authority at all. The perps have not been identified.

Yeh, that's right- blast Gaza for something that happened in the West Bank, because that's obviously reason enough to blast Gaza, right? If they return fire with primitive rockets, blast 'em some more.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/missing...bank-drawing-threats-of-retaliation-1.1893027

So far, the death toll is 200+ Pals, 4 Israelis including the 3 teens.
 

IronWing

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No, Israeli doesn't put it's artillery right next to civilian housing. HAMAS aim's it rockets at a city.Congratulations on your logical failure.

HamasHospital.jpg

At least you are honest in your posting of Israeli propoganda. Meanwhile Israel is knowingly killing civilians. Collective punishment is a violation of the Geneva Conventions and Israel is engaging in it.
 

cabri

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Isreal still drops the bomb because they consider Palestinians subhuman.
As do much of the Arab world.

Also, the Palestinian leadership considers their civilians to be cannon fodder.
And they also consider the Jews to be on the same level.

Please come back with examples of the Palestinians having higher standards than the Israelis.
 

Zorkorist

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Normal People, you and I, know that Religion is fucked up.

Government, is fucked up,

and it's the individual that matters.

-John
 

cabri

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At least you are honest in your posting of Israeli propoganda. Meanwhile Israel is knowingly killing civilians. Collective punishment is a violation of the Geneva Conventions and Israel is engaging in it.

And what is Hamas doing?
they are knowingly trying to kill civilians.
And also knowingly putting the "Palestinian" civilians in the line of fire.

Where is your outrage?
 

CitizenKain

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As do much of the Arab world.

Also, the Palestinian leadership considers their civilians to be cannon fodder.
And they also consider the Jews to be on the same level.

Please come back with examples of the Palestinians having higher standards than the Israelis.

Well, lets find the video where a Palestinian gun boat murders 4 Israeli children.
 

Brovane

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Yep. No shame at all.

The current round of violence came as Israel retaliated for the deaths of 3 Israeli teens in Jerusalem, which is not under Hamas authority at all. The perps have not been identified.

Yeh, that's right- blast Gaza for something that happened in the West Bank, because that's obviously reason enough to blast Gaza, right? If they return fire with primitive rockets, blast 'em some more.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/missing...bank-drawing-threats-of-retaliation-1.1893027

So far, the death toll is 200+ Pals, 4 Israelis including the 3 teens.

In January of this year alone Palestinian militants fired 22 rockets and 4 motor shells into Israeli. In March they fired 65 rockets in Israeli. Were where you in March of this year in condemning these indiscriminate attacks into Israeli?
 

cabri

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Yep. No shame at all.

The current round of violence came as Israel retaliated for the deaths of 3 Israeli teens in Jerusalem, which is not under Hamas authority at all. The perps have not been identified.

Yeh, that's right- blast Gaza for something that happened in the West Bank, because that's obviously reason enough to blast Gaza, right? If they return fire with primitive rockets, blast 'em some more.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/missing...bank-drawing-threats-of-retaliation-1.1893027

So far, the death toll is 200+ Pals, 4 Israelis including the 3 teens.
How long was Hamas lobbing rockets at Israel?
Hamas and the Fatah did nothing regarding the teenagers in terms of finding them and/or finding out who did such.
Hamas proudly supported what happened.

The bombing started after the Hamas started the heavy rocket campaign.
that was in response to the Palestinian teenager being killer.
Who was responsible for that? Have they been brought to justice?
What about who was responsible for the Israeli teens? Have they been brought to justice?

There is always a cause and effect. It just determines when you want to draw the line and why.
 

Brovane

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At least you are honest in your posting of Israeli propoganda. Meanwhile Israel is knowingly killing civilians. Collective punishment is a violation of the Geneva Conventions and Israel is engaging in it.

Then every conflict is a violation of the Geneva convention. That is why conflict should be avoided because civilians get killed.