This is just ugly: Goodwill pays handicapped employees as little as 4 cents an hour

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DucatiMonster696

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Lets look at it like this:

Someone who is blind typically gets:

$750 a month in SSI
$200 a month in SNAP (Food Stamps)
$X a month in housing voucher
Plus Medicaid

This is NOT enough to live off of, which is why these people look for jobs to supplement their income. They need these jobs for their livelihood. Many of the others with disability who are getting these waivers at "Goodwill" are in the same position.

The bulk of these people you are talking about either live with family members because they can't take care of themselves or they live in group homes as adults because again they can't take care of themselves. Their basic needs are pretty much meet in most regards. However their needs versus your "needs" are drastically different so your assumption about why they take these jobs is completely and utterly wrong. You really need to stop making yourself look like a total buffoon.
 

DCal430

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The bulk of these people you are talking about either live with family members because they can't take care of themselves or they live in group homes as adults because again they can't take care of themselves. Their basic needs are pretty much meet in most regards. However their needs versus your "needs" are drastically different so your assumption about why they take these jobs is completely and utterly wrong. You really need to stop making yourself look like a total buffoon.

If you did some researched you would know this isn't true. Again I have actually talked to these people. Once again the people actually interviewed in the article are were blind and living on their own. You really should read the articles in question.
 

cubby1223

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He was wrong, part 1 of the story does talk all about the blind, the story was touched off because of the protest by the National Federation of the Blind. He didn't even read the story.

You have more than proven yourself a fool without a leg to stand on, you don't get to criticize other people. Well, you can, it's a free country, but you can't force people to listen to you.

Let's take $100k per year away from your "evil" executive and disperse it amongst these 7,300 workers. Congrats you just increased their yearly salary by $14. You increased a full-time employee's hourly income by 0.6 cents. Learn yourself some math.
 

Lanyap

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READ THE F*CKING article. The people they interviewed are simply blind. Not barely functional. The people leading the protest is the National Federation of the Blind. Because the blind make up significant portion of these people, perhaps the majority.


I did read the article and watched the video. The blind people they were talking about were making a few dollars less than minimum. They probably should be bumped to the minimum wage. I was talking about the people making less than $1. Like 4 cents in the OP's title. Those people, whatever their disabilty, are barely functioning.
 

DCal430

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I did read the article and watched the video. The blind people they were talking about were making a few dollars less than minimum. They probably should be bumped to the minimum wage. I was talking about the people making less than $1. Like 4 cents in the OP's title. Those people, whatever their disabilty, are barely functioning.

Those people are a minority of the 7,300. The majority of the majority of the 7,300 make 2 to 5 an hour. The vast majority of people who get these waivers are barely functioning people that you are thinking.

Side Note:

FYI
Yes, I would rather see everyone make 6-10 an hour, then have some make 5 an hour and a few others make 1000 an hour.
 

palehorse

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Those people are a minority of the 7,300. The majority of the majority of the 7,300 make 2 to 5 an hour. The vast majority of people who get these waivers are barely functioning people that you are thinking.

Side Note:

FYI
Yes, I would rather see everyone make 6-10 an hour, then have some make 5 an hour and a few others make 1000 an hour.
Who gets to make 1000 an hour?
 

DCal430

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I meant in the fantasy you described here:

Please explain that breakdown of wages that you "would rather see"...

There were/are GW executives making 1 million a year, executives like this rarely do real work, but instead leach off the labor of those they exploit. I say they do 20 hrs a week of real work, this breaks down to around 960 an hour.

Next:
I already said, Highest Paid Hr/Lowest Paid Hr <= 20.

In the scheme of the whole U.S, I think we need 75% tax on income over 500,000 and 90% tax on income over 1,000,000. No one needs to make such excess.
 
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palehorse

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That really doesn't explain the post I just quoted and the numbers you said you'd "rather see," but whatever...

You're completely f'n nuts. Seriously.
 
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DCal430

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That really doesn't explain the post I just quoted and the numbers you said you'd "rather see," but whatever...

You're completely f'n nuts. Seriously.

Wanting equality is being nuts?

You can't explain how it is right for executives of a F*king charity to be making over 1 million a year.
 

palehorse

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Wanting equality is being nuts?

You can't explain how it is right for executives of a F*king charity to be making over 1 million a year.
Sure I could.

Instead of spending your life begging for underserved equality in pay -- an idea that goes against everything that makes this country great -- here's an even better solution: Get an education, work extremely hard, and become an executive.

Or, if you're too stupid to handle that long and difficult road, just find and marry a rich chick.

Each of those methods works infinitely better than your communist pipedream...
 
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DucatiMonster696

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If you did some researched you would know this isn't true. Again I have actually talked to these people. Once again the people actually interviewed in the article are were blind and living on their own. You really should read the articles in question.

So the two people they interviewed is in your mind a indicator that they are the majority? You're point is pretty flawed here unless you can provide some hard numbers here.

Additionally these two blind people may be able to live by themselves but the reality is there is very real reason why they are working at GoodWill and have fallen within the exemption guidelines for a minimum wage job under the law. I.e., had they been able to meet the very basic requirements to earn a minimum wage they would be receiving it but their disability causes their productivity to be lower than that of the average person. And as I stated above their needs/requirements for working at GoodWill are very much different those of yourself or any other regular person working at job. If these people were required to earn a minimum wage they would not be employed at any job in which maintaining a operating budget is necessary for that business's or organization's continued future operation. Just as the needs and goals of other workers there are also completely different than the two people interviewed. So maybe, just maybe you should STOP and THINK about the potential repercussions before you undermine a exemption that has allowed these people actually find voluntary employment rather than a future of no employment at all if you had your way.
 
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