This is how "easy" and "stable" your AMD system is!!

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alnoor

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Duron 650 and A7V Installation

Some beautiful quotes:



<< with PnP enabled, is to move your cards until you see which will most likely share, I have moved my cards in my system 10 times before I finally got a good setup (hopefully). >>





<< However even this is a hit and miss and hope for the best type of situation. >>





<< There are lot's of drivers to remove and install, I migrated from an ALi chipset to a VIA chipset, I eventually learned to go into my system properties and remove anything with the word ALi in it. I also migrated from and SB AWE sound card and removed anything AWE. In fact I nearly removed everything. >>





<< Well I have to say that this is not a system for the faint of heart, this setup had it problems with the installation, even after all the research that I had done beforehand and I can't deny that. >>



Ahh so there's some truth to it.



<< would not work with the new PC133 generic memory go figure, so I had to upgrade the memory to PC133 Infenion for and extra $35 which delayed me for three days, and brought a little extra frustration. >>



And a lot of valuable hours you could have spent working on a STABLE P3 platform instead.



<< There are a thousand things that can go wrong, such as having bad drivers...installing PCI boards in slots that don't like to share...heat ect. You do need to have extreme patience and you need to learn from this setup. If you want a system out of the box, plug it in and go baby go then this is not for you. >>



So modern computing with AMD means spending weeks just to get Windows stable.



<< every time I played a game it would freeze but windows was rock stable >>



That's what most people on this board would define &quot;stability&quot;.



<< a few weeks later the weather was very cool and I decided to try 10X95 for 950 and behold my system was stable at 50c in windows and in games, about a week later we kind of had some very hot and humid weather and my temp hit 58c and my system would freeze >>



Lucky my machine doesn't depend on the weather.

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<< do not even think of installing SCSI devices, Sound Cards, USB Hubs >>



That could be the last straw for most people but AMD zealots.

Oh and this is on an Asus board too...yet one still has to be put through such pains in order to play minesweeper on win 98. It this managed to screw up on an Asus board then it's definitely the chipset/platform/CPU problems. Time to go back to the drawing board VIA.

Any unsuspecting users, the story above is very much a real situation with AMD parts so proceed with care when you build your own system.
 
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Lifer
Apr 23, 2000
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Hey guys! look who is back,I don`t think he deserves a decent reply.

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JimMc

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Oct 9, 1999
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I don't think this guy is GUTB, didn't he always capitalize every other word for emphasis?

Perhaps this one is just stupid and can't set up a PC.
 
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rockhard

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Heh, strange how my P3 733EB has issues with runnin my monitor in low power state which it cannot wake it up from, hmmm?
Yet my &quot;unstable&quot; ;) AMD has no probs whatsoever, go figure?

rockhard =)
 
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Cylon

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<< There are lot's of drivers to remove and install, I migrated from an ALi chipset to a VIA chipset, I eventually learned to go into my system properties and remove anything with the word ALi in it. >>



So am I correct in my understanding that the moron didn't format his drives and reinstall his OS from scratch? That would cause the stability problems he is having, not any defect with AMD/VIA chips.
 
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Howard

Lifer
Oct 14, 1999
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Didn't some guy on ATF run this site, and linked to it in a 'What chair do you use' thread in OT?
 
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jinsonxu

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Hmm, i don't recall having such ridiculous troubles when building my system. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that i 'merely' changed from TX to KT133. No problems even though i didn't reformat initially. Windows ME does a better job in transition.
 
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Lifer
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Building mine was a snap. Suprising thing was there were no problems and it's been rock solid for me and WinMe hasn't given me any troubles either.
 
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A5

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<< with PnP enabled, is to move your cards until you see which will most likely share, I have moved my cards in my system 10 times before I finally got a good setup (hopefully). >>



Get a better power supply. He must also have a sh*tload of cards if he can move em in 10 different configs.



<< would not work with the new PC133 generic memory go figure, so I had to upgrade the memory to PC133 Infenion for and extra $35 which delayed me for three days, and brought a little extra frustration. >>



Strange...I have a mix of Generic PC100 and PC133 that works just fine, thank you.



<< If you want a system out of the box, plug it in and go baby go then this is not for you >>



If you want a system you can take out of the box and plug it in, DON'T BUILD IT YOURSELF(duh).

That's all the time I'm gonna spend on this.
 
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Soccerman

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Oct 9, 1999
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lol..

&quot;with PnP enabled, is to move your cards until you see which will most likely share, I have moved my cards in my system 10 times before I finally got a good setup (hopefully)&quot;

first off, alnoor, even Intel compatable computer have to have enough busmastering slots in order to get everything running without IRQ conflicts..

you just have to be watching reviews more carefully for that kind of info.

&quot;There are lot's of drivers to remove and install,&quot;

well DUH, what did you think you could just plop it in, when MS refuses to put Via/ALi chipset support in it's driver database?

&quot;would not work with the new PC133 generic memory go figure, so I had to upgrade the memory to PC133 Infenion for and extra $35 which delayed me for three days, and brought a little extra frustration.&quot;

ok, that could suck, HOWEVER, it means the guy probably got better quality SDRAM anyway (what system was he running? that's not a normal problem with the KT133, it's more common to the AMD750).

&quot;every time I played a game it would freeze but windows was rock stable&quot;

what was he doing wrong? not enough cooling? overclocked video card? not big enough power supply? you can easily have that occur on an Intel computer.

&quot;Lucky my machine doesn't depend on the weather.&quot;

it does if you are running say an Intel P3 1ghz.

&quot;do not even think of installing SCSI devices, Sound Cards, USB Hubs&quot;

hmm? USB runs fine, so would SCSI (becuase it's the SAME as on an Intel board). soundcards as well, however there are some quirks that MS has to fix still in their OS to allow much better ease of use with other then Intel chipsets...
 
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Deeko

Lifer
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Hmm....I've got generic RAM that came out before PC66 spec even existed, and it's running perfectly stable at 115MHz....it's a shame my K7M has problems with memory that isn't perfect....wait a second....
 
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Eli

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Oct 9, 1999
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LMAO! I've got nothing to say, other than I built an AMD Classic Athlon 550 system, using a PCChips K7-800LMR board, 64mb generic PC100, and it was the most stable, easiest to setup system I've ever used. We could NOT get it to crash. Believe me, we tried.. But what's the experience of one user/system build? :)

I'm not even going to bother, everyone else has picked through his post enough.


Troll.
 
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SSP

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Well, He sure has the GUTB seal of quality trolling.

alnoor, You sir are an IDIOT!
 
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hungrypete

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Aug 4, 2000
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my A7V with a duron 650 only took a few hours to set up. It's much more stable than some of our celery 500s at work. Alll weeee neeeeed is juuuuust a liiitle paaatiieeence....
 
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chiwawa626

Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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alnoor, dont talk bad about amd, or anything if you havent had First hand experiance with it! I purchased my tbird900 system 2months ago, i ditched it for an intel system, even though my last system was a p3 450. I've used both, and no problems. I had no problems with AMD so far, not even a unexpected crash! So, alnoor, be quiet unless u wanna get flamed AGAIN like last time
 
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Noriaki

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Well...I don't want to waste a lot of time on this so I'll just say, me and my roommate built 3 classic athlon 550 systems with generic PC100 RAM and genric 250watt power supplies, using everything but the board and chip from our old K6-2 systems. And we have had no problems. Our systems both run great. Windows 95 doesn't seem to like me much, but it has very immature AGP and USB support, and it hates my friends CopperMine 600 just as much...but I have no need to use Win95, using 98SE this system runs great.

(For those of you that are knitpicky, you may note I have Micron RAM, not generic, after spending nearly $3000 at the one store on me and my roommates upgrades and most of a 3rd guys computer, the store owners swapped me good 2-2-2 ram for my generic for just the cost differnce, becaue I bought my old ram with them to, but my system ran fine for 3 months before they did this, and my roomate still has his generic)
 
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rockhard

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Nov 7, 1999
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I would be most grateful if someone would start a thread along the same lines but aimed at intel and copy and paste multiple problems with the platform which can be had on any newsgroup and then just sit back and enjoy Alnoor ranting and raving at us all ;)

Fraid i aint got it in me to pull such a rotten stunt on the poor guy :D

As they say, &quot;What goes round comes round&quot; ;)

rockhard =)
 
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