This is how a Police Officer in America acts when there are no consequences

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Pipeline 1010

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This was an abusive incident, and I agree the police are often abusive and get away with it. In this case though, he was not acting as a police officer, but an out of control parent.

You're right, he was not acting as a police officer. This is how he treats his precious offspring. How do you think he has treated rando strangers off the street whilst on the job? With more or less kindness? With more or less restraint? With more or less ass-kicking? I'd be curious to know how many complaints he has received vs how many have been upheld.

And nobody knows yet whether he will "get away" with it.

Oh I think we all do.
 

ch33zw1z

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Indeed. The simultaneous self righteousness and victim mentality of modern day liberalism in America (on display on this forum as well) does make you wonder what is going on? How can people be so oblivious to their own shortcomings or that of their pet constituencies? It does give you pause, leaves you scratching your head
Thanks for proving point in the very next post, yet ignore, again, the content of the post regarding your baseless and false assertion.
 
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I think moonbeam has a valid point. Dealing with filth day in day out will corrode even gentle human beings, which most cops probably not are to begin with anyway. As usual what moonbeam says gets lost in the usual shouting and screaming

That said, it is hard to reconcile the liberal view of govt being potentially a source of good when in fact the police is another sad example of govt power. But then it’s futile to try to discern sense in such things

And libertarians or paleo-cons think you can have a state without police? Huh? The police are the only part of government that pretty much the entire right favours retaining. As you say, it's futile to try to disern sense in such things.

As for your attempt at excusing this guy's behaviour - ironic that moonbeam accuses others of lacking morals, when its the two of you who are trying to excuse the inexcusable.

What I would concede is that this is just one incident, an anecdote not a statistic, so it doesn't really _prove_ anything about the standard of US cops in general.
 

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Lifer
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I watched the video. i watched it having known violent people and how they act on school property
From cops to lawyers to accountants.
At no point did I see the guy do anything that would indicate he used his authority to prevent intervention.
Between seeing violent assholes from all walks of life over the years and not seeing the guy nor reading about the guy dropping the "I'm on the job" card I didn't see as an "American cop" problem.
Yes, the guy should be locked up and booted from the force with benefits taken away.


This bothered me more

Those 2 women witnessed an assault on a minor on school property and did nothing.


I don't think it matters whether he used his authority (though merely having such authority is going to influence the behaviour of others). It looks like an "American cop" problem to me, in that one would hope that cops would be selected from the less thuggish elements of the population and/or have such impulses trained out of them. But I accept it's just one case, and no police force is going to be perfect in not having such people in their ranks. If the cops are not doing better than the general population, however, then that's a problem.
 

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On a serious note, the fathers profession is not really relevant.
Violent parents hold all sorts of jobs.

I think it is relevant in he is suspended with pay. Any other line of work gets somebody fired for video of them beating their child.
 

The Merg

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I think it is relevant in he is suspended with pay. Any other line of work gets somebody fired for video of them beating their child.

Try again... Think of all the people who have been charged with domestic assault and have never lost a job. Unless the incident actually occurred at work, you will almost never lose your job for domestic assault.

- Merg
 

OutHouse

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When is this going to change? Every day it gets more ridiculous. Every day, we see Police acting as if there are no consequences whatsoever to engaging in blatantly criminal activity. I fear we have already passed the point of no return. Our government is corrupt from the top down and there are thus no consequences that can be handed out to dissuade this sort of abuse.


Also, notice the tone of the article. Read the words used. He "slapped" her. Watch the video and tell me if that looked like a "slap" to you. Why is ABC news covering this in a way to make it sound like all he did was give her a "love tap"?





http://abc7chicago.com/florida-poli...-in-school-office-as-employees-watch/3461497/

wtf does his job have have to do with this? are you implying all cops beat their kids or people?

good grief you need mental help.
 
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You're right, he was not acting as a police officer. This is how he treats his precious offspring. How do you think he has treated rando strangers off the street whilst on the job? With more or less kindness? With more or less restraint? With more or less ass-kicking? I'd be curious to know how many complaints he has received vs how many have been upheld.



Oh I think we all do.
I guess you subscribe to the "guilty until proven innocent" school of thought. The chances are he has behaved badly as an officer, but unless you actually go investigate his record, there is no way to know that.

In any case, I think the police in general should be held to a much stricter standard than they currently are. Pretty much all an officer has to do is say "I was afraid for my life" to get off of most anything, especially if the incident was not caught on camera. There should be a much more demanding standard of justification for using deadly force, and the police should be made to understand this from the beginning of their training.
 
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those are good studies and they should be done with high stress jobs like cops. BUT for the OP to call all cops scumbags and for others to put forth claims that he beats up the public he comes into contact with because the abuser happens to be a cop is 100% bullshit.

OP isn't worth the 'give a damn'. He's trolling. Don't bite.
 

Genx87

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Try again... Think of all the people who have been charged with domestic assault and have never lost a job. Unless the incident actually occurred at work, you will almost never lose your job for domestic assault.

- Merg

The video is the deciding factor. Being charged without video evidence is a lot different than what happened here. It is pretty clear he is beating his kid and thus should be fired. It is amazing to me the police unions have managed to negotiate in for cops off duty like this to keep their jobs while an internal investigation happens. I expect in the end this pile of shit will lose his job as well. But him being paid until that happens is ridiculous.
 
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