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This is Happening All Over America

bshole

bshole

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Is is happening in my state as well. This story is from Florida. Corporations have learned funding candidates and then having have them gut agencies and fill them with industry shills is the way to go. There really is a war going on here and America is losing. This one represents an attack on renewable energy sources.

Remember that this is Florida which is at higher risk of rising water levels than any other state. Hell much of its history was spent underwater.

One would think that the state Public Service Commission (PSC) would help protect the future of Florida’s citizens by helping with energy efficiency and renewable energy options. Not only does this five-member commission set all the electric rates in the state, but it also reviews and directs utility plans for the future to help provide the lowest cost energy services in the state. Logically, those utility plans would include effectively helping consumers to improve the efficiency of their homes and improve the amount of electricity that might be cost effectively produced by the sun or other clean sources. But as we shall see, this is not the case.

Unfortunately, the Florida PSC, according to a consumer watchdog agency, Integrity Florida, is now a “captured agency1,” meaning that the commission is now effectively controlled by the utilities that it supposedly regulates. While before 1978 the five members of the commission were voted upon, the members are now appointed by the Florida State governor, who is currently Rick Scott. Given the governor’s ban on the words “climate change” in government documents and disparagement of the potential calamity of greenhouse gas emissions for low–sea level Florida, it is also not surprising that the appointed members are pliant to the desires of the IOUs. After all, NextEra, FPL’s parent company, donated $1.3 million to Governor Rick Scott’s 2014 election effort. And as always with politics, money curries favor.
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https://cleantechnica.com/2017/12/1...egulatory-backwardness-sunshine-state-part-4/
 
This really stupid. The rest of the World is chasing after ways to develop renewable energy sources, and we are sticking our heads up our asses.
 
Here in FL special interests backed by big business use Constitutional amendments to add favorable language changes. Recently they tried it with renewable energy and the language was to relieve power companies from having to pay home owners who's power generation was spilling back onto the grid augmenting the supply. Fortunately it failed or they'd have put one over on the people.

These rich business owners only care about enriching themselves and they don't care about what they do to you just as long as they benefit from the action.
 
Puffnstuff said:
Here in FL special interests backed by big business use Constitutional amendments to add favorable language changes. Recently they tried it with renewable energy and the language was to relieve power companies from having to pay home owners who's power generation was spilling back onto the grid augmenting the supply. Fortunately it failed or they'd have put one over on the people.

These rich business owners only care about enriching themselves and they don't care about what they do to you just as long as they benefit from the action.
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It is the extreme conceptualization of capitalism. We saw the USSR with socialism and how that turned out.
Why is it so hard to get to that middle ground where everyone wins.
 
cytg111 said:
It is the extreme conceptualization of capitalism. We saw the USSR with socialism and how that turned out.
Why is it so hard to get to that middle ground where everyone wins.
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It's not about how hard it is. Some "winners" feel like less of a winner when others win. When others win that's less money, reputation and power in their own pockets.
 
Younigue said:
It's not about how hard it is. Some "winners" feel like less of a winner when others win. When others win that's less money, reputation and power in their own pockets.
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As long as you have a vote and that vote counts for something... I mean it is as simple as getting people to take responsibility for other people - instead of living in a box. It is a shift in the "me me me" mentality, but if it doest happen everything else is fucked.
 
We need SCOTUS reform and repeal of Citizens United, otherwise we will not defeat the cancer of legalized corruption that conservatism has unleashed.
 
senseamp said:
We need SCOTUS reform and repeal of Citizens United, otherwise we will not defeat the cancer of legalized corruption that conservatism has unleashed.
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Agreed.

As for conservatism though, heh, we all know that word has lost all of the meaning attached to it ever since Trump and his crooked Repub Congress critters took over the government. Or maybe all that's happened is the holier-than-thou facade these folks were hiding behind finally got ripped away from them, and look at them now, not even ashamed of themselves now that they got the truth revealing exposure they were hoping to avoid for all this time.

Whatever conservatives had to cling to as a description of their identity got thrown out the window when they elected Trump the sex predator, when their party threw all in for Roy Moore the child molester, when these folks went along for the tax cut ride for the wealthy while their Repub legislators blew the deficit sky high to pay for it, all while these self-proclaimed "conservatives" looked quietly on, not even raising an eyebrow in protest. How they're going to distinguish themselves from what they've allowed to happen sure is going to be fun watching them try to do it.

I guess it's just more important to be a Nazi loving, child molester supporting deficit exploding Republican nowadays.

The word "conservative" as it was formerly referred to is now nothing more than a joke I'm going to be telling my kids and grand kids about.
 
Trumpism is a realization of conservatism. Tax cuts, gutting of environmental regulations, nationalism. What conservative movement is all about.
 
We’re living through a return to the gilded age minus any hard investments that would be usable for the following generations.

Eventually a correction will become inevitable.
 
ivwshane said:
I thought this was of relevance:

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-reached-last-stage-before-collapse-2017-12
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From the article-

A thing that we wish to be true is true; if we wish it not to be true, it isn’t. Global warming is a hoax. Barack Obama was born in Africa. Neutral predictions of the effects of tax cuts on the budget must be wrong, because the effects they foresee are bad ones.

It is, of course, our president who finds in smoking entrails the proof of future greatness and prosperity. The reduction of all disagreeable facts and narratives to “fake news” will stand as one of Donald Trump’s most lasting contributions to American culture, far outliving his own tenure.

He has, in effect, pressed gerrymandering into the cognitive realm. Your story fights my story; if I can enlist more people on the side of my story, I own the truth. And yet Trump is as much symptom as cause of our national disorder.
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Facts are irrelevant in the Trumpian realm. They simply don't exist.
 
Jhhnn said:
From the article-



Facts are irrelevant in the Trumpian realm. They simply don't exist.
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Ya see, the Repubs they got this secret weapon that's called a fact zapper. It's extensively used at FOX of which this guy named Hannity is their top fact zapper operator with Banderas as his zapper loader and backup. This guy Limbaugh has got the same zapper 'cept his zapper has a full auto function and he knows how to use it.

They get their zaps directly from those good folks over at the RNC who get their raw zap materials directly off the ground from this cattle ranch in Wyoming. 😉
 
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