This is funny atleast to a mechanic...

AMCRambler

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I believe the SAE and metric for these adjustable wrenches refers to the gradiations on the face of the wrench. One set has SAE scale (inches) and one set has metric (mm). Really not so stupid when you think about it. I have a set of Craftsman adjustables that have the scales on the side of the wrench. Rather than have different wrenches they just put SAE on one side and metric on the other though. Kind of nice if you're not sure what size the nut is that you're turning. You can adjust the wrench to the nut and then read the scale.
 

Meghan54

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I believe the SAE and metric for these adjustable wrenches refers to the gradiations on the face of the wrench. One set has SAE scale (inches) and one set has metric (mm). Really not so stupid when you think about it. I have a set of Craftsman adjustables that have the scales on the side of the wrench. Rather than have different wrenches they just put SAE on one side and metric on the other though. Kind of nice if you're not sure what size the nut is that you're turning. You can adjust the wrench to the nut and then read the scale.



The whole point of an adjustable wrench is that it makes it irrelevant whether you're working on SAE or metric nuts....the wrench simply opens and closes to match the size needed.

To sell a set as metric and a set as SAE is just money grubbing and preying upon people's ignorance.

And if you're not sure of the size of the nut you're working on and using an adjustable wrench, does the scale really do anything for you? You don't know the size........

And if you say, "Well, once it fits, then you can look at the scale and then pick out the proper size socket....", that's just stupid. Anyone who works at all with nuts and sockets begins to be able to determine, within a size or two, what socket size you need. Try it, if it doesn't fit, move to the next size, up or down, necessary. Repeat as needed. Takes all of a few seconds.
 

FuzzyDunlop

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What's In The Box:
• 6-inch SAE Quick-Adjusting Wrench
• 8-inch SAE Quick-Adjusting Wrench
• 10-inch SAE Quick-Adjusting Wrench
• 12-inch SAE Quick-Adjusting Wrench
• 6-inch Metric Quick-Adjusting Wrench
• 10-inch Metric Quick-Adjusting Wrench
• 12-inch Metric Quick-Adjusting Wrench

Whats a Metric Inch???
 

NutBucket

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The length of the handle.....really people? I haven't even finished my first cup of coffee!
 

Zargon

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The whole point of an adjustable wrench is that it makes it irrelevant whether you're working on SAE or metric nuts....the wrench simply opens and closes to match the size needed.

To sell a set as metric and a set as SAE is just money grubbing and preying upon people's ignorance.

And if you're not sure of the size of the nut you're working on and using an adjustable wrench, does the scale really do anything for you? You don't know the size........

And if you say, "Well, once it fits, then you can look at the scale and then pick out the proper size socket....", that's just stupid. Anyone who works at all with nuts and sockets begins to be able to determine, within a size or two, what socket size you need. Try it, if it doesn't fit, move to the next size, up or down, necessary. Repeat as needed. Takes all of a few seconds.


well ya know, there is some overlap on metric/sae, where they are almost but not the same, and you can fit the wrong socket on said nut/bolt, and it will 'work' but has more chance of rounding. its not much different than say, putting a caliper on it first.

I can see why having the markings would be useful, as for the wrenches in the OP

no idea WTF is going on, but irwin is good shit in general
 
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jlee

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well ya know, there is some overlap on metric/sae, where they are almost but not the same, and you can fit the wrong socket on said nut/bolt, and it will 'work' but has more chance of rounding. its not much different than say, putting a caliper on it first.

I can see why having the markings would be useful, as for the wrenches in the OP

no idea WTF is going on, but irwin is good shit in general

So how do you determine which adjustable wrench you should be using, then? :hmm:

:p

Truly a waste of money, IMHO. It's not that hard to just match up wrench size to your adjustable, if you get tired of guessing in the first place.
 

jlee

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get out of here with your metric you communist, why do you hate America?

My oil feed is 9/16ths, my oil drain is 1 1/16ths, and my Breeze clamps are 3/8ths. The rest of the car is metric. SAE needs to DIAF.
 

Zargon

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So how do you determine which adjustable wrench you should be using, then? :hmm:

:p

Truly a waste of money, IMHO. It's not that hard to just match up wrench size to your adjustable, if you get tired of guessing in the first place.

they are only a waste of money if all adjustable wrenchs are too?

at 10-15 bucks for a decent hand tool, 7 for a 100 bucks isnt exactly grossly out of line, atleast it wouldnt be if they werent selling you the same wrench twice :p

the listing is stupid, but like I said, dunno WTF is going on with that.
 

Meghan54

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SAE needs to DIAF.



Amen to that. Really gets boring working on something only to come across the only SAE bolt out of the whole contraption....and you have your metrics out. Usually, it's when you're in the worst spot for having to crawl out from underneath whatever you're working on and go dig out the rarely used SAE sockets/wrenches.....
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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We've all been in situations where you run across a particular fastener that doesn't match the rest of the fasteners on whatever you're working on. Sometimes it's because someone else worked on it first and was lazy and sometimes the manufacturer had a wtf moment. So, you put down your tools, brush yourself off and go down to the local car parts store to buy a tool to finish the job.

Now, you discover that the store wants to charge you more for the correct part than the one that 'almost' fits. We're not talking a few cents but 20 or 30% Then you notice odd sizes in general are more expensive or only sold as a part of a larger collection of tools! This isn't an occasional occurrence but happens fairly regularly.

Fuck them all. I'd rather drill out/hacksaw the fastener and replace it with whichever 'standard' is used on the rest of the project.
 

jlee

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they are only a waste of money if all adjustable wrenchs are too?

at 10-15 bucks for a decent hand tool, 7 for a 100 bucks isnt exactly grossly out of line, atleast it wouldnt be if they werent selling you the same wrench twice :p

the listing is stupid, but like I said, dunno WTF is going on with that.

Adjustable wrenches are great. Buying two of the same thing so you can have metric and SAE? Dumb.
 

LTC8K6

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These are quick adjust wrenches. The idea being to use the scale to adjust the size so the jaws already fit before you reach in with the wrench. That's what the inch/mm is about. You could also use the scale to measure an unknown and then get the right box wrench.
 

Zargon

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Adjustable wrenches are great. Buying two of the same thing so you can have metric and SAE? Dumb.

well I wouldnt want to use a adjustable wrench in SAE to get the size of something on any newer car :p


but really, I use a caliper for that. and only have one smaller adjustable wrench.....

I need a bigger one, for the occasions when I need 2 15mm or whatever wrenches at the same time, and a socket wont work...
 

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The wrenches in the Irwin 573730 use precise scale markings to get an idea of what size bolt you are on and the whole system runs on a grooved internal jaw and sliding lever.

If you don't know what size bolt it is, surely you could spare a few seconds to grab a couple sockets you think are the right size and try them out real quick.

If you look at the set as just a handful of adj. wrenches, it doesn't look like a complete ripoff, but the whole SAE/Metric thing looks like a bunch of bullcrap.

I thought they were talking about the length of their handles at first too, but look at the pic, the three supposed metric wrenches on the outside are all the same size.

Also what could be a little more confusing to someone who doesn't know, they say "Vise Grip" on the handles.
 

hanoverphist

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i saw those at home depot a while back. i asked the tool kid if they had left handed ones also.
 

jlee

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i saw those at home depot a while back. i asked the tool kid if they had left handed ones also.

Pretty sure they do...should be in the left-handed section, just above the hammers & to the left of the screwdrivers.
 

Bartman39

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Well I have the metric version of this...?:p (really that same exact bar)

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...group_ID=24510&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

BTW the only thing we normaly use an adjustable wrench is for hose fittings and the smallest I have is a 12" but most of the time use either a 15" or the bad boy 24" for large lines... In my line of work its useless for nuts and bolts and would round off the head to easy... If the hose fittings are in difficult or hard to reach places I have some nice offset wrenchs 30 degree on one end and 60 degree on the other from 3/8ths" to 2 1/4" and they come in real handy for hyd. work...

It just gave me a laugh so though I would share...;)
 

marvdmartian

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Anyone know if these are left handed wrenches? Having the hardest time finding left handed metric adjustable wrenches, as most of them made are for right handed use! :rolleyes: :sneaky: