This is depressing...Teens beat mentally retarded man to death with soda bottles...
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And thats why I really appreciate and admire most Middle Eastern and Asian societies. These kids wouldnt be going on trial, they would immediately be stoned to death. And thus would end such stupidity in the news as we see here.
Oh, i also wouldnt say they so much beat him to death with a soda bottle....Thats rather misleading.....Still though.....
Oh, i also wouldnt say they so much beat him to death with a soda bottle....Thats rather misleading.....Still though.....
In what regards? They have video tape of the kids doing it, thus, would you still support a fair trial? Essentially, if the "eye for an eye" rule applies, you have hard evidence of someone directly causing a death, do you need a trial?
the title is a bit misleading... cases like these are unfortunately commonplace.
In the part of town where I live, a couple teens beat an old couple to death with baseball bats because they "wanted to know what it feels like to kill someone".
In the part of town where I live, a couple teens beat an old couple to death with baseball bats because they "wanted to know what it feels like to kill someone".
No matter what, these kids deserve a fair trial. The problem with kids is that they don't think about their actions, many times because their parents don't teach them right from wrong. My little cousin wouldn't listen to his parents when they told him not to throw rocks in a lake. They told him not to throw rocks at the ducks in the lake. What happened? He threw a rock and hit a duck in the head, killing it.
Thankfully it wasn't a person. While these kids I'm sure didn't mean to kill the man, they still need to face the consequences of their actions. It is the only way they will learn.
Ryan
Thankfully it wasn't a person. While these kids I'm sure didn't mean to kill the man, they still need to face the consequences of their actions. It is the only way they will learn.
Ryan
Its so sad to see things like this in the news. I say lockem up for a long time...and when they get out...give them work release at a mental retardation institute.
I disagree. The problem is society is so lax anymore, parents dont teach kids about taking responsibility for their actions. Due to the fact everyone seems to skate through any kind of criminal trial while and little menial civil matter becomes a full on in-court war.
Example: You cheat on your wife and you'll be drug through court 9 ways to Tuesday and get raped every step of the way. Kill your neighbor? With a wood axe? In front of kids at a elementary soccer game? 2 days, start to finish in court. Maybe some jail time. Its a joke. Figure a day and a half and lots of prohbation if your someone important or have money. Its ridiculous.
I still say stone'm.
:disgust:
I think the teen parents should be sue for raising a piece of crap like that.
Throw him to Texas or Florida !
I think the teen parents should be sue for raising a piece of crap like that.
Throw him to Texas or Florida !
It is easy to say things like that, but our legal system exists to protect us from the government. Pure and simple. Everyone has a right to a trial. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. It won't be hard to prove these teens committed the crime. However, they are only teenagers. They need to be punished, and need to face the consequences of their actions. However, this situation does not warrent the death penalty. Should they go to prison? Absolutely. Stoning these kids to death will not solve the problem. Change needs to start at home with the families and the parents. The government and the schools aren't responsible for raising these children. The parents are. Now, I would support the court holding the parents responsible for their children's actions as well. That could be very effective.
Ryan
How does the legal system protect us from the government?? Very few suits are actually filed on bealf of the government. Most may have the government as the defendant (As in, State vs Kids who killed someone) but it was the actions of the kids who generated the suit.
Either way, its pretty messed up what they did.
Either way, its pretty messed up what they did.
so what you are saying is that there is a problem with the rulings handed out by the courts, as well as how it handles different types of cases. which is fine. but the solution is to fix the problem, not bypass it altogether. i know it sounds farfetched, but the tape could be doctored. there have been several instances where people are framed, injustly accused, etc. that is why a fair trial is needed, to prevent innocent people from going to jail. you can't just look at a case based on what you hear in the news and go "yup, death". well, maybe you can, but it wouldn't be a very good system.
That is the example I was thinking of... State vs. Kids, or State vs. Anyone. If people were sent to prison without even a trial, or are guilty until proven innocent, the state could and I believe would abuse that power in every way possible. I think the state does already in some ways, with traffic tickets and the like. But we are digressing into another subject completely. Suffice it to say we both want justice to be served, but in different ways. You are right, what they did is really messed up and tragic.
Ryan
Agreed. But, in *this* example I refer to my much previous point. They arent innocent. They have hard evidence (The videotape) proving they did what they did. In this case, the court system could work for them in letting them off easy. in areas where it isnt cut and dried (No signed confession in blood or a videotape) I firmly believe in innocent until proven otherwise. But, in this case, even with hard proof, we STILL have to assume their inncoent until proven otherwise and have the whole process drug through the mud, with the end result probably favoring the kids.
Hard evidence = no trial, straight to sentencing. With no leniency shown.
Alas, thats not how it is......
not enough empathy in the world, perhaps they should be given the chance to understand those feelings from both perspectives....
anything is possible, and all we have to go on is what the news has told us. the tape could have been doctored, faces might be blurry, etc, etc. unlikely, but still remotely possible.
in order for a legal system to be fair, i believe the rules must be concrete and universal... that means no exceptions. once you start allowing acceptions, you open a small wound that has the potential to be infected by greed and corruption until you have to amputate the damn thing.
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