This has to be the most epic fails of fails. Med student stealing ipad.

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dn7309

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I'd rather be a pharmacist than a doctor. While both require equal time investment, as a pharmacist you make decent cash (most start at 80-120K) with way less work, skill, stress and accountability without being on call 24/7.
Being a pharmacist is a zero mistake position. one mistake can cost you your license.
And also, pharmacists are among the first medical specialist that will be out of the job in the near future.

http://www.ucsf.edu/news/2011/03/9510/new-ucsf-robotic-pharmacy-aims-improve-patient-safety
 

Eug

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I just can't get over how completely moronic and thoughtless this student is. Epic epic fail is right.
 

Fenixgoon

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Being a pharmacist is a zero mistake position. one mistake can cost you your license.
And also, pharmacists are among the first medical specialist that will be out of the job in the near future.

http://www.ucsf.edu/news/2011/03/9510/new-ucsf-robotic-pharmacy-aims-improve-patient-safety

considering doctors kill ten thousand plus patients per year, i think pharmacists will be ok.

people will always make mistakes because we are people. the goal with anything is to minimize risk by putting systems in place that serve as a check against human error.
 

HamburgerBoy

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This might be ten years too late, but I think she could do a decent Lucy Liu porn parody. Dat jawline.
 

Mai72

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Asian and a medical student giving that excuse? way to not fit any stereotypes

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It's called losing face. No matter how guilty you are you never admit to it.

She is Vietnamese. I'm sure her parents are going to try do anything in their power to make sure this doesn;t damage her career.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_(sociological_concept)
 

shortylickens

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What I do not get is did she not do a risk/reward assessment before she committed this crime?

What the hell was she thinking.

I've been taught about risk assessment many times in my life.
Believe me, its not beat into the American brain at all. Its more of a cute theory that no one ever applies.
Would American prisons be revolving doors if everyone did risk assessments?

I like the current theory which is vietnamese are so used to scraping by that grabbing junk is just instinct.
 

BarkingGhostar

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Is it any worse than someone in the funeral trade stealing objects being buried with the dead? not advocating, just asking.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I'd rather be a pharmacist than a doctor. While both require equal time investment, as a pharmacist you make decent cash (most start at 80-120K) with way less work, skill, stress and accountability without being on call 24/7.

Holy shit you are so wrong. Not about the on call bit but docs can at least eat. Try being on your feet for 12 hours without a break (maybe to hit the bathroom). I'm telling people who are considering it to do anything else. You screw up someone's prescription because you are understaffed, handling the drivethrough, the phone, the drop off, the pick up and trying to give a flu shot all at the same time then say you aren't accountable and that's not going to work at all. I saw a study about stress, and while pharmacists aren't first in suicide the average lifespan is decreased more than than other health related professions, if what I do can be called a profession. That word implies some control over practice, but some guy who doesn't know anything about what the job entails puts a clock (literally) on the screen and if you don't have everything done when the clock turns you are going to get hell.

What the company and schools want to project

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Your real life behind the counter, or so it has become-

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Blackjack200

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Pharmacists can be doctors, however; most are not. A doctorate of Pharmacy isn't too common unless you are in research where it's more required.

Average doctors only make about the same as Pharmacists. Those with their own practices (as well as Pharmacists with their own pharmacies) can make much more.

Surgeons are usually in the $200k to $1MM+ ball park...but most surgeons are 24/7.

A pharmacist while having to work holidays and weekends/nights often...don't deal with late night phone calls.

From Wiki:

All graduating pharmacists must now obtain the Doctor of Pharmacy (Pharm.D.) degree before they are eligible to sit for the North American Pharmacist Licensure Examination (NAPLEX) to enter into pharmacy practice.[21]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacist#United_States

That it says "must now" suggests that this wasn't always the case, so you may be right and there may be a lot of pharmacists out there that aren't doctors. But right now all new Pharmacists have a PharmD.

Doctors are from $150k to $300k.
http://healthland.time.com/2012/04/27/doctors-salaries-who-earns-the-most-and-the-least/

Pharmacists are $90k to $120k.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacist#Earnings_and_wages


Pharmacists don’t have the ability to diagnose patients or prescribe medicine. They also aren’t regulated to ‘practice’ medicine by a state board. Even getting a PharmD after 4 years doesn't make pharmacists a doctor of anything other than pharmacy, certainly not an MD.

http://www.nabp.net/boards-of-pharmacy

Why would getting an PharmD make you a doctor of anything other than Pharmacy. Does getting an MD make you a doctor of Philosophy? A JD?

Another distinction, some pharmacy schools don't even have a GPA cutoff for entrance into their PharmaD programs, although many list it at a 3.0 GPA.

I can't speak to that except to say that my perception is that most PharmD programs are pretty competitive, if not quite as competitive as MD and DO programs.

I remember reading that over all 40% of all pharmacists work in local retail chains and many don't possess a PharmaD. Those who go onto their PhD in pharmacy after 4-6 additional years of intensive study are paid accordingly based on their way increased workload/responsibility/stress, but you won’t find them working at Walmart or RiteAid.

It would make sense since that's where most people get their drugs. Those can be pretty stressful jobs though.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Whoa. A 4 year pharmD? The old degree by itself was 5 years and passing a licensing exam has been around a very long time, and yes there are boards governing practice.
 

BeeBoop

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Being a pharmacist is a zero mistake position. one mistake can cost you your license.
And also, pharmacists are among the first medical specialist that will be out of the job in the near future.

http://www.ucsf.edu/news/2011/03/9510/new-ucsf-robotic-pharmacy-aims-improve-patient-safety

Stupid article and completely untrue. Robots can replace pharmacy tech but they will never replace the actual pharmacist. State laws will make sure that their is always a licensed pharmacist checking over a robot's work. Robots can take over the tech's work but not pharmacist. You do know we have modern day computers that can fly commercial planes and drive trains on auto pilot right? Why do we still need a physical presence with auto pilot?
 

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Stupid article and completely untrue. Robots can replace pharmacy tech but they will never replace the actual pharmacist. State laws will make sure that their is always a licensed pharmacist checking over a robot's work. Robots can take over the tech's work but not pharmacist. You do know we have modern day computers that can fly commercial planes and drive trains on auto pilot right? Why do we still need a physical presence with auto pilot?

How is it a stupid article and completely untrue? The article never stated that the robots would replace any sort of pharmacy jobs.

It is just trying explain the benefits of having a robotic presence.
 

Ichinisan

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Please elaborate as someone stole our ipod touch with tracking.

Unless you disable the Find My iDevice feature before the device is wiped, it will force them to enter the password for your Apple ID to activate the device.

Since Apple started doing this kind of activation, stolen iDevices are almost worthless to thieves.
 

dn7309

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It's called losing face. No matter how guilty you are you never admit to it.

She is Vietnamese. I'm sure her parents are going to try do anything in their power to make sure this doesn;t damage her career.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_(sociological_concept)

I'd like to see how that turns out

and most of the time when they "loose face" is because they hype and brag about themselves. If they don't brag they no one will give a **** if they make a mistake.
 

dn7309

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From Wiki:



Why would getting an PharmD make you a doctor of anything other than Pharmacy. Does getting an MD make you a doctor of Philosophy? A JD?

I remember reading somewhere that Pharmacist degree didn't used to be call PharmD from every school. Most school at the time handed out a Bachelor of Pharmacy while USC was the first to hand out a PharmD. Both degree will grant the student to practice after getting licensed in the state. I assume at the core the training is the same except USC cell their graduate "doctors" while most other don't

from wikpedia

Previously the United States had a 5 year bachelor's degree in pharmacy. For BS Pharmacy graduates currently licensed in the U.S, there are few highly-ranked U.S Universities offering doctorate degree programs. These programs are fully accredited by ACPE (Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education) but only available to current BS Pharmacy graduates with a U.S license to practice pharmacy.

This causes some group of pharmacists to be anal about how that causes them not be classified as "doctors" so they whine and lobbied to their way and now every school have to grant a pharmacy degree with the "doctor' instead of "bachelor" designation on it.