This has to be the most epic fails of fails. Med student stealing ipad.

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DesiPower

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All doctors are thieves, they are greedy soulless bastards, They are all about the money
 

alkemyst

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All doctors are thieves, they are greedy soulless bastards, They are all about the money

This is entirely untrue. I know of two doctors that are family friends that do 2-3 months in other countries out of their own pockets. One does cleft palates and other birth defects and the other is a cardiac surgeon.
 

DesiPower

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Sure, you might have some "personal" good experiences, but every time me or anybody have to go to doc office or hospital it seems like they are just trying to get more and more money out of us by cheat lie and deceit. We keep getting bills even 6 months after we have been to the hospital.
 

alkemyst

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Sure, you might have some "personal" good experiences, but every time me or anybody have to go to doc office or hospital it seems like they are just trying to get more and more money out of us by cheat lie and deceit. We keep getting bills even 6 months after we have been to the hospital.

If this is constant find a new doc.

For hospital visits, everything is broken out in your bill...billing may take a few months due to hospital stays get processed more slowly by your insurance company than a simple doctor visit.
 

bradley

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Sure, you might have some "personal" good experiences, but every time me or anybody have to go to doc office or hospital it seems like they are just trying to get more and more money out of us by cheat lie and deceit. We keep getting bills even 6 months after we have been to the hospital.

The new trend are these for-profit clinics enticing physicians/surgeons (by promising them equity ownership) to perform major procedures off-site so they can bill their entire fees and other facility costs, thereby eliminating the middleman. Except removing a hospital setting from such procedures is not only a money grab, it can be extremely dangerous for the patient (eg, Joan Rivers death)

Also, only through legal settlements have the amount of kickbacks by major pharmaceutical companies to physicians/surgeons fully been disclosed. Otherwise patients would never know the amount paid in kickbacks for certain drugs to be prescribed, yes sometimes even off-label - which has been an equally scary decades long trend for patients.

Dollars for Docs
How Industry Dollars Reach Your Doctors
http://projects.propublica.org/docdollars/

2.5 billion in disclosed payments by 15 companies possessing 43% of total marketshare. This doesn't even include the billions of dollars in settlements against pharmaceuticals for off-market labelling, which is considered the cost of doing business.

So stealing an iPad is nothing in comparison.
 

SKORPI0

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What a piece of crap. I wouldn't want nurses as petty as that around my family.
She was in medical school studying to be a doctor, not a nurse. :hmm:

Recovering the iPad was important for Packer's family, her uncle Sam Heller said, because in her final days she had been entering personal messages and information for her sister Nicole.
:'(
 

shortylickens

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"and something about Rollo Tomasi. Who is he?"


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BUTCH1

Lifer
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except there were witnesses when she died and she was putting together images and items for her sister to remember her with.

The biggest loss is the loss of all that data.

Yea, and that's what is going to help convict this scumbag as well, if you picked up the wrong Ipad you would return it, not start deleting things. I hope this POS does jail time for this crap.
 

bradley

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Yeah she'll look great as a first-year pharmacy student. Or maybe she'll re-enroll at that school in Grenada.

I'd rather be a pharmacist than a doctor. While both require equal time investment, as a pharmacist you make decent cash (most start at 80-120K) with way less work, skill, stress and accountability without being on call 24/7.
 

Blackjack200

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Yea, and that's what is going to help convict this scumbag as well, if you picked up the wrong Ipad you would return it, not start deleting things. I hope this POS does jail time for this crap.

That she just obliterated her medical career exceeds in impact any jail time she might do
 

trungma

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Well she sound like many vietnamese I know and unknowns splitting my time in Southern California and Ho chi Minh city for the last 6 years. Steal anything that is apple made at first sight of an opportunity. My wife had her iPhone 4 taken right out of hand while taking a call in the street in Vietnam.

At least she worked hard to get to medical school (or cheated her way up there)

But her excuse was funny though. Mistaken an ipad her hers when she clearly changed the name of the ipad from Natalie's ipad to Virginia's ipad.

Being vietnamese myself I remember stealing being a reoccuring scenario amoung vietnamese family, friends, and acquaintances. Perhaps it is related to the poverty in Vietnam where you do what you can to get by. But stealing from someone that just died is about as low as you can go for a thief.
 

Blackjack200

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I'd rather be a pharmacist than a doctor. While both require equal time investment, as a pharmacist you make decent cash (most start at 80-120K) with way less work, skill, stress and accountability without being on call 24/7.

Yeah, I'd much rather make $80-$120 than $170 to $400+.

Wait...

way less work, skill, stress and accountability without being on call 24/7.

You know that pharmacists are doctors, right? And they have all that stress and accountability, and they have huge workloads, and some of them are on call?
 

Hugo Drax

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Sure, you might have some "personal" good experiences, but every time me or anybody have to go to doc office or hospital it seems like they are just trying to get more and more money out of us by cheat lie and deceit. We keep getting bills even 6 months after we have been to the hospital.

True, and now a days they even ask if you want to supersize your prostate examination.
 

alkemyst

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Yeah, I'd much rather make $80-$120 than $170 to $400+.

Wait...



You know that pharmacists are doctors, right? And they have all that stress and accountability, and they have huge workloads, and some of them are on call?

Pharmacists can be doctors, however; most are not. A doctorate of Pharmacy isn't too common unless you are in research where it's more required.

Average doctors only make about the same as Pharmacists. Those with their own practices (as well as Pharmacists with their own pharmacies) can make much more.

Surgeons are usually in the $200k to $1MM+ ball park...but most surgeons are 24/7.

A pharmacist while having to work holidays and weekends/nights often...don't deal with late night phone calls.
 

HN

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What I do not get is did she not do a risk/reward assessment before she committed this crime?

What the hell was she thinking.

probably thought she was being clever by re-registering the ipad
 

alkemyst

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probably thought she was being clever by re-registering the ipad

Sadly, many people think if you wipe and re-register an Apple device that it becomes totally yours with no way to track.
 

bradley

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Yeah, I'd much rather make $80-$120 than $170 to $400+.

Wait...



You know that pharmacists are doctors, right? And they have all that stress and accountability, and they have huge workloads, and some of them are on call?

Pharmacists don&#8217;t have the ability to diagnose patients or prescribe medicine. They also aren&#8217;t regulated to &#8216;practice&#8217; medicine by a state board. Even getting a PharmD after 4 years doesn't make pharmacists a doctor of anything other than pharmacy, certainly not an MD.

Another distinction, some pharmacy schools don't even have a GPA cutoff for entrance into their PharmaD programs, although many list it at a 3.0 GPA.

I remember reading that over all 40% of all pharmacists work in local retail chains and many don't possess a PharmaD. Those who go onto their PhD in pharmacy after 4-6 additional years of intensive study are paid accordingly based on their way increased workload/responsibility/stress, but you won&#8217;t find them working at Walmart or RiteAid.