This Girl is going to Prison cause she accused a Man of raping her..Is that Fair??

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Was it fair to imprison her for 18 months?

  • Yes, that's fair

  • No, should've been more

  • No, should've been less

  • No, shouldn't have been imprisoned at all


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BoberFett

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Imagine if there hadn't been a security camera. This innocent guy would be screwed, because an accused rapist is equal to being a rapist according to some of the apologists around here.
 

Veliko

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Imagine if there hadn't been a security camera. This innocent guy would be screwed, because an accused rapist is equal to being a rapist according to some of the apologists around here.

No he wouldn't because she wouldn't be able to prove that a rape actually occurred.

Rape convictions are very low.
 

SlickSnake

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Do all the posters equating words with deeds in sentencing for a crime also happen to work for the guberment? Because that's a very politically correct stance for paper pushing office sheeple.

The first thing the police would do in any case where one person accuses another person of a serious crime without proof, is give both parties a lie detector test, even in the UK. And it don't matter if the results may not be allowable in court, either. But it gives the cops a good place to start asking questions, when one party repeatedly fails the test.

However, the fact she lied about rape allegations before, should have caused the court to give her a stiffer sentence this time around.
 
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Wyndru

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I'm seeing a lot of stories that refer to video footage in hotel rooms, is this common to be recorded in hotel rooms?
 

Ruptga

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Aug 3, 2006
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You don't even need a conviction if your PR campaign is good enough. False accusations are serious business.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Most cases are settled before trial so I disagree.

Yep, and even during trial some will take plea bargains knowing they didn't even commit the crime. There was that one infamous story about a guy that was falsely convicted of rape, and he even admitted guilt on the advice of his attorney (several years and sex offender status vs easily 20+ years without taking the plea bargain, or thereabouts). DNA evidence years later either freed or exonerated him, and the thing is that the woman that accused him didn't even know him and still managed to pick him out in a line-up, just because he happened to look similar to the actual rapist.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Considering this is NOT HER FIRST time she falsely accused someone of rape i think she got far to light. She should have several years.
 

Spungo

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In a practical sense how is that different than a man attempting to kidnap a woman and hold her prisoner in his basement dungeon?
It's different because people wrongfully convicted don't get raped in their... oh. Nevermind.
 

Mide

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destroying a dude's record and life isn't something to be taken lightly. a bit less than attempted murder in my book.
 

Broheim

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Feb 17, 2011
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If you were given the choice of being raped or falsely accused of raping someone else, which one would you choose?

I would much rather be raped by a woman than be falsely convicted of rape, I'd say my answer would be the same for falsely accused. Men get raped by women all the time, we're just socialized to not think of it as rape so in the majority of cases it doesn't bother us much.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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She got away with it at least once. She should have gotten this sentence the first time. 5 to 10 years the second time. Something happened like this to a coworker's son some years ago. He always had trouble with depression and tried suicide. He never recovered, his life is ruined and the woman who was found to be lying never had a thing done to her.
 

Iron Woode

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_United_States



With an arrest rate of only 25% I don't see how anyone can claim that 'most' cases are settled before trial.
still as dense as a post, eh?

Most rape victims can't identify their attacker. Most rapists don't leave much evidence behind. Some victims refuse to identify their attacker or refuse to report their rape. Police can't just snap their fingers and 'poof' find and arrest the attacker.

25% maybe arrested but the conviction rate is even less. Why? For the reasons I listed above. That is where the 'settled' comes from. Some plea bargain down to a different charge like sexual assault or aggravated battery. This would depend on strength of the Prosecution's case. Not enough evidence to go to trail and the charges are dismissed.

A false claim still gets you arrested and tried before the public and in the media. It may go to trial. The police need to do a better job of determining a false allegation of rape.
 

Veliko

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Feb 16, 2011
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You've clearly misunderstood things.

GinormousNG claimed that "Most cases are settled before trial" which is quite clearly false when only 25% of cases even get as far as having someone being arrested.

A false claim might get you arrested but contrary to what some seem to believe not all rape arrests reach the media and the public.

It can be hard to differentiate a false allegation of rape from an unproven one.
 

NFS4

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Oct 9, 1999
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But the guy too is already receiving punishment -- the world knows that he slept with Slagathor.
 

BUTCH1

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There should be some kind of punishment for this sort of thing but those trying to say that false accusations of rape are as bad as actual rape are off their rocker.

No, I'd say their pretty close, true that having sex forced upon you would be a nightmare but so would be facing those charges if she could get her ploy to work, dude would be in jail for 5-10 years, be financially ruined an be unemployable once he got out of jail since EVERY employer runs a criminal background check on a prospective employee's.
 

Veliko

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No, I'd say their pretty close, true that having sex forced upon you would be a nightmare but so would be facing those charges if she could get her ploy to work, dude would be in jail for 5-10 years, be financially ruined an be unemployable once he got out of jail since EVERY employer runs a criminal background check on a prospective employee's.

They aren't close at all and anyone who suggests otherwise is emotionally stunted.
 

NFS4

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They aren't close at all and anyone who suggests otherwise is emotionally stunted.

What if a man falsely accused of rape spends 10 years in jail as a result, then himself becomes a victim of rape in jail due to the stigma associated with the crime?

Not to mention the broken family/friend ties, losing out on time with your children. Or even the financial repercussions.

Do you just dismiss all if this?
 
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