Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: vi edit
Natural Attrition.
1) As mentioned by me and others, the PC tweaking and power user community is drying up. There just isn't as much benefit and cost savings like there used to be 10+ years ago overclocking Celeron 300a's or video cards. So we lose new member interest because they aren't seeking out help and getting invovled in the community.
2) Social sites have evolved (or de-evolved in some cases) on internet. Myspace, facebook, and hotspots like 4Channel have stolen many "Off Topic" users from conventional bulletin board formats.
3) We just have a natural attrition of legacy users through various reasons. People that came here years ago are getting older, have families, lose interest, move on to other things, ect.
As far as moderation is concerned, it's just like any sort of policing. It's reactive. Not proactive. And for every person that you make happy, you piss off another. It's a zero sum game. MANY users were fed up with the YAGT and YACT so we spun off those threads to L&R and The Garage. Some people loved it, some hated it. We can't win. Hindsight is always 20/20. Speaking strictly as a member and not a moderator, I LIKE having those threads - as well as P&N stuff funnelled into their own forums. If I want to see it, I'll go there. But I like structured formats even if it does create lower traffic overall.
This forum is a spin off of a hobbist site. If the hobby itself is on the decline, the forum is going to follow that.
To a point this is true.
But at the same time the anonymity went away and along came super bias resulting in a Nanny Police state.
I was on here from the beginning in 1998 until January of this year without ever being "vacationed" and then two more times back to back after that including vacationed for the entire month of May.
That's Ok it made me start my own forums
That's because of your slow descent into insanity, Dave. Not the mods.
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Personally, I think the forums were harsher back in the day. I remember when I first started posting, I almost left because of the negativity and insults. Instead, I decide to join in on the fun. :laugh:
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: Kroze
Is it just me or this forum is slowly dying? I'm seeing post that are 2 to 3 days old on the front page. Are the mode to blame because they're too strict with the rules that drive people away from this forum?
Mods? Strict with rules..? Maybe it's just me, but they're a lot more lax now than a couple of years ago.
Nah, I used to get away with much more. Yesterday I got a warning for calling a douchebag "douchebag".
No offense, but you've not even been here a year yet. You don't have a "used to" yet.
Anyone who remembers far back, around 2000/2001, can tell you that there used to be a much tighter reign here. Words like "douchebag" were filtered outright, bypassing the language filter was an instant vacation, people were permabanned just for being annoyances to the majority of members, and overall it was a lot less permissive.
On the other hand, the membership was much more tightly-knit, people tended to be more polite, and there was overall more opportunity for deeper discussion while maintaining civility.
ZV
Originally posted by: JohnCU
my ATOT dying thread got less posts than this one![]()
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
In the end, does it really fscking matter?
Sorry but these forums have been "dead" to me for a long time.
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: JohnCU
my ATOT dying thread got less posts than this one![]()
But it does have 123% more zombie spider action.
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Personally, I think the forums were harsher back in the day. I remember when I first started posting, I almost left because of the negativity and insults. Instead, I decide to join in on the fun. :laugh:
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: JohnCU
my ATOT dying thread got less posts than this one![]()
But it does have 123% more zombie spider action.
Originally posted by: waggy
hmm i don't every remember ebay being banned.
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: waggy
hmm i don't every remember ebay being banned.
I do, we called it eb@y or egay to get around the filters
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I was on here from the beginning in 1998 until January of this year without ever being "vacationed" and then two more times back to back after that including vacationed for the entire month of May.
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
In the end, does it really fscking matter?
Sorry but these forums have been "dead" to me for a long time.
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: Kroze
Is it just me or this forum is slowly dying? I'm seeing post that are 2 to 3 days old on the front page. Are the mode to blame because they're too strict with the rules that drive people away from this forum?
Mods? Strict with rules..? Maybe it's just me, but they're a lot more lax now than a couple of years ago.
Nah, I used to get away with much more. Yesterday I got a warning for calling a douchebag "douchebag".
No offense, but you've not even been here a year yet. You don't have a "used to" yet.
Anyone who remembers far back, around 2000/2001, can tell you that there used to be a much tighter reign here. Words like "douchebag" were filtered outright, bypassing the language filter was an instant vacation, people were permabanned just for being annoyances to the majority of members, and overall it was a lot less permissive.
On the other hand, the membership was much more tightly-knit, people tended to be more polite, and there was overall more opportunity for deeper discussion while maintaining civility.
ZV
Originally posted by: allisolm
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I was on here from the beginning in 1998 until January of this year without ever being "vacationed" and then two more times back to back after that including vacationed for the entire month of May.
Sadly, Dave's memory is as faulty concerning vacations as it is about everything else.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: vi edit
Natural Attrition.
1) As mentioned by me and others, the PC tweaking and power user community is drying up. There just isn't as much benefit and cost savings like there used to be 10+ years ago overclocking Celeron 300a's or video cards. So we lose new member interest because they aren't seeking out help and getting invovled in the community.
2) Social sites have evolved (or de-evolved in some cases) on internet. Myspace, facebook, and hotspots like 4Channel have stolen many "Off Topic" users from conventional bulletin board formats.
3) We just have a natural attrition of legacy users through various reasons. People that came here years ago are getting older, have families, lose interest, move on to other things, ect.
As far as moderation is concerned, it's just like any sort of policing. It's reactive. Not proactive. And for every person that you make happy, you piss off another. It's a zero sum game. MANY users were fed up with the YAGT and YACT so we spun off those threads to L&R and The Garage. Some people loved it, some hated it. We can't win. Hindsight is always 20/20. Speaking strictly as a member and not a moderator, I LIKE having those threads - as well as P&N stuff funnelled into their own forums. If I want to see it, I'll go there. But I like structured formats even if it does create lower traffic overall.
This forum is a spin off of a hobbist site. If the hobby itself is on the decline, the forum is going to follow that.
To a point this is true.
But at the same time the anonymity went away and along came super bias resulting in a Nanny Police state.
I was on here from the beginning in 1998 until January of this year without ever being "vacationed" and then two more times back to back after that including vacationed for the entire month of May.
That's Ok it made me start my own forums
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: Kroze
Is it just me or this forum is slowly dying? I'm seeing post that are 2 to 3 days old on the front page. Are the mode to blame because they're too strict with the rules that drive people away from this forum?
Mods? Strict with rules..? Maybe it's just me, but they're a lot more lax now than a couple of years ago.
Nah, I used to get away with much more. Yesterday I got a warning for calling a douchebag "douchebag".
No offense, but you've not even been here a year yet. You don't have a "used to" yet.
Anyone who remembers far back, around 2000/2001, can tell you that there used to be a much tighter reign here. Words like "douchebag" were filtered outright, bypassing the language filter was an instant vacation, people were permabanned just for being annoyances to the majority of members, and overall it was a lot less permissive.
On the other hand, the membership was much more tightly-knit, people tended to be more polite, and there was overall more opportunity for deeper discussion while maintaining civility.
ZV
My profile does not reflect my actual join date.
Originally posted by: RichUK
It was better when we didn?t have all these separate social forums. Good times?
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: RichUK
It was better when we didn?t have all these separate social forums. Good times?
I have to agree with Rich here. All the YAGT and the YACT are in their own separate forums. Those topics made the OffTopic front page move more than it does now.
I mean look at the the individual forums there are here. Not much left to discuss in OffTopic.
I have been vacationed twice. The next time, someone will lose their head.Originally posted by: ric1287
I love how serious people take the vacations/banning. hahahah.
