This could "Drive" you crazy!

[Jokersmoker]

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[HansHurt]

Not a money maker....yea right.

This company would get no business from me that's for sure.

 

[Amused]

Well, it's not illegal. The way to stop this is to boycott the comapny.

I would NEVER rent a car from them, or any other company that not only activly tracked the car I've rented, but actually FINED me for speeding. Not because I speed, but because I value my privacy, and despise being treated like a criminal, even though I've committed no crime.

 

[Pastore]

Speeding is not privacy, its breaking the law...

 

[Pretender]

By tracking the cars' speeds, they can lower their insurance costs; and they can track stolen cars to retrieve them.
By lowering insurance costs and not losing cars, they can lower cost to consumer.


It's a toss up between cost and privacy (or right to break the law), not a big deal.

 

[vektor]

hope that avis doesnt do that.I went over 80 for the whole trip from va to canada....yikes.That sucks but you got to read your contracts I guess.

 

[RU482]

<< Well, it's not illegal. The way to stop this is to boycott the comapny. >>



I was thinking firebomb the company, but I suppose your approach would work too

 

[pulpp]

that is alittle over the edge, i wouldnt be renting from them either

 

I Wonder if the contract said exactly, &quot;Your speed will be constantly tracked and you will be fined $150 for every infraction of 2 mins or more&quot;.
All ACME stated was that if you sped over 79 you would get fined. The bold letters were not too specific, and this is a very privacy sensitive issue.



<< It's a toss up between cost and privacy (or right to break the law), not a big deal. >>


Sure, until the govt. or insurance companies decide that EVERY car has to have a advanced GPS to be road worthy. Sure, don't even need patrols on the highways, DMV can just mail you the bill.

So I say its a rather important, and it beginning to show how technology and peoples lives will mix.

 

[Amused]

<< Speeding is not privacy, its breaking the law... >>



Ummm, I believe you have no idea what the right to privacy includes, do you?

The fourth amendment guarentees a person the right to be free of unreasonable search and seizure.

&quot;The right of the people to be secure in their person, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.&quot;

Were the government to do this, it would be unconstitutional, as monitoring someone constantly without due cause just in case they MIGHT commit a crime IS an unreasonable search of their private property. There is not sufficant probable cause.

Now, since this is a private company doing this, and you sign an agreement to it before they rent you the car, it's not a violation of one's constitutional rights. But it IS an infringement on your privacy... you just have to be stupid enough to agree to it first.

 

[Pastore]

It is a private organization, they can do whatever the hell they want as long as they have contracts... So what is your point again?

 

[Amused]

<< By tracking the cars' speeds, they can lower their insurance costs; and they can track stolen cars to retrieve them.
By lowering insurance costs and not losing cars, they can lower cost to consumer.


It's a toss up between cost and privacy (or right to break the law), not a big deal. >>



Pretender, by putting you in a padded room 24/7, we could guarantee your safety even more.

There needs to be a line drawn where the safety police cannot cross into giving up OUR freedoms to satisfy THEIR conscience.

Boycott this company. If we allow this to be successful, we are begging for it to become manditory on all cars, with government monitoring our every move.

Then you can completely kiss the Fourth Amendment goodbye.

 

[Amused]

<< It is a private organization, they can do whatever the hell they want as long as they have contracts... So what is your point again? >>



I made my point in my post. Too bad you didn't read all of it.

 

[Pretender]

<<

<< By tracking the cars' speeds, they can lower their insurance costs; and they can track stolen cars to retrieve them.
By lowering insurance costs and not losing cars, they can lower cost to consumer.


It's a toss up between cost and privacy (or right to break the law), not a big deal. >>



Pretender, by putting you in a padded room 24/7, we could guarantee your safety even more.

There needs to be a line drawn where the safety police cannot cross into giving up OUR freedoms to satisfy THEIR conscience. >>

The police ain't doing a damn thing here, the CAR RENTAL COMPANY billed the CUSTOMER for speeding. The cops were never involved according to this.

 

[yakko]

Cool! I hope all rental places start doing this.

 

[Amused]

<<

<<

<< By tracking the cars' speeds, they can lower their insurance costs; and they can track stolen cars to retrieve them.
By lowering insurance costs and not losing cars, they can lower cost to consumer.


It's a toss up between cost and privacy (or right to break the law), not a big deal. >>



Pretender, by putting you in a padded room 24/7, we could guarantee your safety even more.

There needs to be a line drawn where the safety police cannot cross into giving up OUR freedoms to satisfy THEIR conscience. >>

The police ain't doing a damn thing here, the CAR RENTAL COMPANY billed the CUSTOMER for speeding. The cops were never involved according to this. >>



Here's a hint:

The &quot;saftey police,&quot; ain't real police. They're nagging little ninnies that think no risk is worth it, and freedom never takes precedent over safety.

 

[Pretender]

I misread your post, thought you said police. Still, there's no need to worry, hordes of people complaining like yourself will prevent most large car rental places from implementing this system.

 

[PistachioByAzul]

What's the problem? If you're a law abiding citizen who doesn't speed then you have nothing to worry about.

Kudos to the acme rental car company, they're protecting their cars and keeping people from speeding.

 

[gittyup]

Note to self. Never rent from Acme car rental.

 

[gittyup]

I would question how they know what the posted speed limit is at every mile of his trip.


edit: I see, anything over 79...

 

[khc200]

way i see it is that if no one gets hurt and you didn't get caught, its legal...
its only illegal if they law have to be enforced upon you.

 

[GoldenLion]

I don't go that fast so the fine is not an issue to me but I can see how their policy would be a two edged sword aside from the privacy issue. Assuming someone decided to go over 80 it could affect the way they drive as they tried to avoid crossing the stated level of 80mph additional times. To drive over 80 the whole way would cost $150.00. If you slowed down and then went over 80 again it would cost an additional $150 each time. Wonder if they considered that.......

Don't know of any roads with a speed limit that high so the fine shouldn't be an issue to anyone really.........I wouldn't want anyone driving my car that way either.