This company DISGUSTS me!!!

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Jeff7

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I don't exactly see the problem here. They're basically doing what the government wants us to do - go about our lives, and not let the terrorist attack bring the courtry to a complete halt. The company is doing what it must to remain relatively undisrupted be this tradgedy.
You'd probably have lots to say about my dad's workplace. The boss there is an incompetent, old, greedy SOB who is literally losing his mind. They didn't have anything special there; no TV's showing the news, no announced moment of silence, etc. That place is already going to hell in a hurry. Ok, enough of a rant there. I'll go back to my corner now. :)
 

PlatinumGold

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i see the cooler heads are prevailing.

good.

this is a middle of the road response, not the extreme response that the title suggests. sure you may not personally agree with it, but it can not be construed as outside of the norm.
 

darth_beavis

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My company sent us home around lunch time. They told us to charge it as a plant closing. That's what they use if there's a hurricane or something. However they only did it locally. The main corporate hq later sent an email to tell everyone to stay open but we had already gotten the plant closing note from our local boss and had left. I don't think anyone could worked on tuesday anyway. Any corporate miser who thinks otherwise needs to ask himself if he spent any less then a couple hours staring at the news wondering what the hell was going on? If we had stayed at work we would have spent most of the time talking to each other and the rest of the time watching TV or find info on the net.
 

RSI

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May 22, 2000
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rearden, I really don't see what's bugging you so much. Just trying to stir up trouble, eh?

It's a company. They don't want to go out of business, do they? They are running their company as best as they see they can. non-empathetic, non-sympathetic?

The terrorist attack on America earlier this week was truly unbelievable and a horrific tragedy. Computer Tech grieves with the rest of the nation and extends its thoughts and prayers to the injured and to the families of the victims.

Riiiiiight. And because they want to continue running their business, this makes them evil or something. Okay then! Have a nice day.

-RSI
 

Pocatello

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Oct 11, 1999
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You know what disgusting. my classes weren't cancel last Tuesday. Two professors even dared handed out exams GASP (no makeup exams), the rests homeworks! Homeworks! Can you believe that! What a bunch of SOBs.
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Oh geez, some whiners complaining about losing a vaction day. BFD, it's not like you lost a member of your family or a friend.
 

rearden

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Descartes,

Please explain to me how this is a defamation of corporate character when it's their memo. I didn't write it. Nothing's fabricated.

And let's be honest. And maybe it's just my circle of friends, but I don't know anyone who actually got any work done on Tuesday, regardless of being in the office. Did the company lose productivity. Sure did, FROM EVERYONE! If some people left under those circumstances, who cares. Let's look at the responses my posting has illicited. People on both sides of the fence. What they gain fiscally by charging some people their vacation days, they lose in company morale and loyalty. Maybe not everyone in the company is upset by it, but many are.

On a separate but similar note, I have another friend who went to the Red Cross an volunteered for the next 23 hours after hearing about the WTC incident. Should she be charged a vacation day?

Everyone makes choices and has to live with the consequences. Companies do the same. From a business sense, I can understand why the company issued the memo. However, "business" isn't everything, even for a business. ComputerTech has lost the goodwill of many of their employees in trying to charge for productivity that was already lost. Is that a good business move? They could have made a great gesture of understanding, and instead showed their employees that only the bottom line, not the people generating it, matter. And that is a mistake for any company.

Rearden
 

kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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What they gain fiscally by charging some people their vacation days, they lose in company morale and loyalty.

The people who feel that way are misguided. The company could have chosen to pay, but they didn't. That doesn't make them bad. Unfortunately, had they done so, I would then expect those who DIDN'T go home to demand an extra vacation day since they would have gotten "cheated".

On a separate but similar note, I have another friend who went to the Red Cross an volunteered for the next 23 hours after hearing about the WTC incident. Should she be charged a vacation day?

Yes. She wasn't at work, her choice.

You are expecting more than what is reasonable. If I had been volunteering at the Red Cross, I surely would expect to have it cost me a vacation day.

There's a difference between your friend volunteering the next day and, let's say, the company announcing that anyone who wants to volunteer won't be charged for vacation. That's their decision, but I hope you would see it's not fair for someone to not report to work, and expect their employer to pay for the time they chose to spend elsewhere. It has nothing to do with what they did with their time, noble though it was.
 

rearden

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RSI,

I'm not just trying to stir up trouble. It genuinely upsets me. Is this one day without productivity going to put the company out of business? No. Was it business as usual on Wednesday? Absolutely. Continuing to run their business doesn't, in any way, make them evil.

But to place a paragraph 'Don't forget turn turn in your Time Off Form' totally diminishes and demeans the other paragraphs. It makes them meaningless rhetoric. Some understanding as to the reality of what people went through on Tuesday would have gone a long way.

Many people disagree with me. That's fine. I'm here to voice my opinion on something that botheres me.

Rearden
 

Jal

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Mar 22, 2000
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Too many unknown factors.

Where is the office located? If it is very close to the tragedy, then everyone should have been gone. If they are in another state, and reacting purely on the news media, then the business needs to continue.

What kind of jobs are these? If you are a contractor, you only get paid by the hour for time worked, regardless of any reason.

Hourly factory workers also get paid only by the timeclock.

Salary staff have it much easier.

 

tcsenter

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Sep 7, 2001
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I don't get the outrage, its a pretty nice letter IMHO. What are they supposed to say, "its ok if you want to stay home and be depressed about this for a couple more days." NO! The world didn't end for crying out loud. In case you haven't heard, the tech industry hasn't been doing so well the last year or so. Maybe they can't AFFORD anything more. Did you ever think the company might be on the brink of bankruptcy, and they're trying to save your jobs by getting back to work?
 

marcio

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<<On a separate but similar note, I have another friend who went to the Red Cross an volunteered for the next 23 hours after hearing about the WTC incident. Should she be charged a vacation day?>>

Of course she should. Geez, give me a break. Who was the one volunteering, your friend or her employer? If the company was to pay for her time off, then the employer was the one giving their services to Red Cross. Your friend would be just an employee who was being paid to go work with Red Cross.