This CIO position doesn't make any sense to me

[Exterous]

Was talking to a university and they made mention that they were hiring a CIO. I was a bit surprised but I asked when their current one was leaving. They said their current CIO wasn't leaving. This confused me further.

Apparently they will have a main CIO but then one of the colleges is hiring their own CIO for a new position they just created. This person will report to that college's CFO (!) who reports to the Dean. The 'main' CIO will have some influence over what the 'sub' CIO can do but most of their direction will come from the CFO.

They were complaining the candidates for the college's CIO position weren't great. Yeah - no shit. No good CIO would want to report to a CFO and also kinda report to a different CIO who has more authority and makes more. Kinda goes against the general idea of the position. IT director title makes more sense but salary ranges are codified in most universities so a CIO will make more. Seems like a giant waste of money to me.

 

[mrblotto]

Needs more MSPaint

 

[Mayne]

I'm outraged!

 

[Mayne]

i'm just confused to be honest.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

That's one way to pay more to a particular person you have in mind for the position.

IT Director would normally report to the CIO. I'd say it's probably going to be more of an auditing position.

 

[Exterous]

That's one way to pay more to a particular person you have in mind for the position.

They don't have any one in mind and are having a hard time finding a qualified candidate

 

[Exterous]

Needs more MSPaint

 

[zinfamous]

what does the salary work out to in ppm? (potatoes per month)




damn, MS Paint. NOICE!

lol @Ns1 making an appearance

 

[clamum]

Oh man, that is one of the greater MS Paint diagrams I've seen on here. You sir are a talented individual.

 

[Fenixgoon]

that MS paint makes the thread totally worth it

 

[dullard]

...

Well done sir. Well done.

 

[BurnItDwn]

bestest painter = Exterous

 

[KB]

This org chart brings back too many memories of dealing with colleges.

 

[PianoMan]

MSPaint - Gud. *thumbs up*

But back OT: too many chiefs - never known any organization to have two “chiefs” of anything. But then again, this is a university.

It’s probably a political play by the college to “one up” the other colleges, and a passive push towards autonomy.

 

[cbrunny]

This doesn't surprise me at all. I work at a University - there's lots of different kinds of University structures out there.

best way to put it: Consider a University as being a corporation, and each Faculty within the University is a different corporation owned by the umbrella corp.

I'm not saying it's rational, or efficient, or good. But that's why it is the way it is.

 

[PricklyPete]

I’m fairly certain that MSPaint skill will let you slide directly into the CIO job.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

The COBOL guy -- perfect.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

This doesn't surprise me at all. I work at a University - there's lots of different kinds of University structures out there.

best way to put it: Consider a University as being a corporation, and each Faculty within the University is a different corporation owned by the umbrella corp.

I'm not saying it's rational, or efficient, or good. But that's why it is the way it is.

Yup a university will have colleges underneath them for certain sectors and they all have their own management system reporting back up to the dean. I used to work for my university library and all of the libraries between the colleges did not work together and were separate.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

CIO = Chief Idiot Officer?

 

[Thebobo]

NSI works there?

 

[zinfamous]

NSI works there?

You gotta keep up with the times, bro!

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/i-hope-my-team-can-forgive-me-for-what-ive-done.2545611/

 

[IndyColtsFan]

A CIO reporting to a CFO isn’t uncommon actually. I’ve encountered it in at least 2 of the companies I’ve worked for and have also seen the CIO report to the COO in another.

Also, university IT typically doesn’t pay well, so they probably have to engage in all sorts of title jackassery to pay people they really want (ie, buddies of the big boss). I once applied for a university IT position and they offered me - this is not a joke - $60k less than I was making.

 

[Exterous]

what does the salary work out to in ppm? (potatoes per month)




damn, MS Paint. NOICE!

lol @Ns1 making an appearance

I can't even get a like out of it? Come on man....

MSPaint - Gud. *thumbs up*

But back OT: too many chiefs - never known any organization to have two “chiefs” of anything. But then again, this is a university.

It’s probably a political play by the college to “one up” the other colleges, and a passive push towards autonomy.

This doesn't surprise me at all. I work at a University - there's lots of different kinds of University structures out there.

best way to put it: Consider a University as being a corporation, and each Faculty within the University is a different corporation owned by the umbrella corp.

I'm not saying it's rational, or efficient, or good. But that's why it is the way it is.

Yeah the vast majority of my work is with Universities so I've seen some bad Org charts but I hadn't seen one with a CIO kinda reporting to a CIO but also reporting to a CFO before. Granted I haven't worked with all of the Universities out there but I hope this isn't common

 

[Exterous]

All these likes for my mad paint skillz. Thanks guys. I should autograph a couple and sell them

The COBOL guy -- perfect.

Not everyone will get that but the ones who do are because they know a COBOL guy

A CIO reporting to a CFO isn’t uncommon actually. I’ve encountered it in at least 2 of the companies I’ve worked for and have also seen the CIO report to the COO in another.

Also, university IT typically doesn’t pay well, so they probably have to engage in all sorts of title jackassery to pay people they really want (ie, buddies of the big boss). I once applied for a university IT position and they offered me - this is not a joke - $60k less than I was making.

Sure but a CIO that reports to a CIO?

And you gotta find the right jobs at the right University. Don't judge based on size but on how much of a research university they are. The more research generally the more funds for IT staff and cutting edge technologies. Bonus points if its a research U that also has a large endowment. Manager positions generally pay very well. Coding is hit and miss as is Web. Security, networking and sys admins are generally more miss than hit. If they do large scale on prem storage (multi-PB) the storage engineers are paid well. Also the current "In" field at the U gets a lot of staff funding. Right now that's 'The Cloud' and 'Interactive Learning'

 

[ultimatebob]

Dude... that MS Paint drawing is awesome.

See? This is why we gave this guy a Coolcoin!