This came from a $900 camcorder??!??!

AmpedSilence

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not bad. A bit on the grainy side and could use a bit more contrast, but still pretty amazing for a $900 camera.
 

NuclearNed

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Sony HDR-HC7

This Sony cam is slightly more expensive, but should easily match that picture quality, if not beat it.

<-- did a whole lot of HD Camcorder research a couple of months ago.
 

alchemize

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Amazing. Been looking at one of these for a while, around $940 on amazon. Can't pull the trigger just yet, that's a lot of bones for something that is easily broken/fails mechanically. I'd have to look at an extended warranty, which is against my religion.
 
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Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Sony HDR-HC7

This Sony cam is slightly more expensive, but should easily match that picture quality, if not beat it.

<-- did a whole lot of HD Camcorder research a couple of months ago.

That's a nice camera but it doesn't have a 24p mode.
 
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Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Sony HDR-HC7

This Sony cam is slightly more expensive, but should easily match that picture quality, if not beat it.

<-- did a whole lot of HD Camcorder research a couple of months ago.

From a comparrison test:
Viewed through our performance and control-oriented lens, we believe there is a clear winner ? and it is the Canon HV20. It shares an advantage over the Panasonic HDC-SD1 (Review, Specs, Recent News, $1119.99) and JVC GZ-HD7 (Review, Specs, Recent News, $1529) because it uses tried and true HDV MPEG-2 compression, and our tests show that HDV remains the best consumer HD format. Both the Canon and Sony HDR-HC7 (Review, Specs, Recent News, $1128.56) ? the other HDV camcorder in this shootout ? scored higher than the others in our video performance tests. In the lab, the Canon and Sony raced to a virtual dead heat, both displaying sharper images with less noise than the Panasonic and JVC.
 
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That is very impressive. I agree with the comment on the slight graininess but I didn't imagine this kind of quality could be had for less than a thousand dollars. Still out of my budget but I like to think today's $1000 camera is tomorrow's $400 camera. :)
 
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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
20fps? bleh

We need some 60fps HD camcorders.

um.. you're kidding, right?
24P is 24 fps, progressive - similar to film (though let's not get into a film vs. video debate)
Most camcorders (all, actually) shoot at 60 fields/30 fps - the NTSC standard.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
20fps? bleh

We need some 60fps HD camcorders.
As an artist, I thought you would appreciate the fact that 24FPS gives the most "film-like" quality to HD video.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
20fps? bleh

We need some 60fps HD camcorders.

um.. you're kidding, right?
24P is 24 fps, progressive - similar to film (though let's not get into a film vs. video debate)
Most camcorders (all, actually) shoot at 60 fields/30 fps - the NTSC standard.

I played it in Windows Media Player Classic and it said it was playing at 20fps.

Still, 24fps is still horrible IMO. Heck, 30fps on the big screen even annoys me. 60fps is AWESOME.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
20fps? bleh

We need some 60fps HD camcorders.
As an artist, I thought you would appreciate the fact that 24FPS gives the most "film-like" quality to HD video.

I enjoy vibrant realism more than any kind of XYZ effect. The closer film can get to real life, the better. High resolution, high FPS, and vibrancy are what I'd consider good quality.
 

Quasmo

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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
20fps? bleh

We need some 60fps HD camcorders.
As an artist, I thought you would appreciate the fact that 24FPS gives the most "film-like" quality to HD video.

I enjoy vibrant realism more than any kind of XYZ effect. The closer film can get to real life, the better. High resolution, high FPS, and vibrancy are what I'd consider good quality.

As a filmmaker, I feel that film looks 400x better than 30i. I hate hate hate 30i, it looks awfully fake. Film speed adds character. Maybe 48P would be appropriate.