This C-SPAN caller thinks Russia meddled, and she’s glad about it

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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Well after seeing/hearing Trump in action for what feels like an eternity in hell, it seems that sadism/masochism and a total lack of compassion, morals and ethics is required to have a liking for him so I think I'll pass on that.

Trump has compassion for almost anybody, just ask him! His morals and ethics are bigly too!
 
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glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
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Partisanship is driving a powerful delusion that Russia did nothing wrong. And until a Republican stands against Trump - the faithful will continue to identify with Trump. For those who are not yet lost, they need a leader to follow. To push back against the tide of insanity. Else Trump will continue to dominate their ID, and their Ego will continue to poison their minds as it is constantly rewriting sanity and logic to make up whatever excuse is needed to protect the ID.

And with the depravity that is Trump, those leaps in logic require monumental departures from reality. Insanity is full speed ahead. They may not all be lost, not yet, but who is going to show them the light? Who is going to save the Republican identity from Trump?


Nothing wrong? The U.S. has been interfering in the elections and internal affairs of other countries for decades and so have the Russians and Soviets before them. How is it some are keen to yell "blowback!" anytime we intervene militarily somewhere but think our own tactics would never be used against us? You'll notice no one yelling about Russian interference has sworn off the U.S. interfering in the affairs of other countries going forward.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/...y-one-meddling-in-elections-we-do-it-too.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-it-made-a-difference/?utm_term=.fa8a83d317bf
 

fskimospy

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Nothing wrong? The U.S. has been interfering in the elections and internal affairs of other countries for decades and so have the Russians and Soviets before them. How is it some are keen to yell "blowback!" anytime we intervene militarily somewhere but think our own tactics would never be used against us? You'll notice no one yelling about Russian interference has sworn off the U.S. interfering in the affairs of other countries going forward.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/...y-one-meddling-in-elections-we-do-it-too.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-it-made-a-difference/?utm_term=.fa8a83d317bf

Yes but who cares about what we do to other countries? We bomb other countries with relative frequency but that doesn't mean if someone bombs America we say 'well, I guess we can't respond because we had it coming!'

So yes, the US should feel free to interfere in foreign affairs wherever we see that it benefits us and we should also make any country that similarly interferes in our affairs suffer heavily for it.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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Nothing wrong? The U.S. has been interfering in the elections and internal affairs of other countries for decades and so have the Russians and Soviets before them. How is it some are keen to yell "blowback!" anytime we intervene militarily somewhere but think our own tactics would never be used against us? You'll notice no one yelling about Russian interference has sworn off the U.S. interfering in the affairs of other countries going forward.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/...y-one-meddling-in-elections-we-do-it-too.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-it-made-a-difference/?utm_term=.fa8a83d317bf
Making the case that America should not be exceptional from the MAGA side of the aisle is chef kiss beautiful.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Sounds like she's a great believer that when handed a lemon you make lemonade. Machines are in the habit of constructing their world view in ways that protect their egos. We could cure this as individuals, but we would have to notice we are machines bound by a program we cling to mightily because it substitutes real self respect with egotism. Why spit on self pretension when you can spit on some other pathetic lost machine. All she ever wanted was to be loved.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Yes but who cares about what we do to other countries? We bomb other countries with relative frequency but that doesn't mean if someone bombs America we say 'well, I guess we can't respond because we had it coming!'

So yes, the US should feel free to interfere in foreign affairs wherever we see that it benefits us and we should also make any country that similarly interferes in our affairs suffer heavily for it.
Shouldn't somebody get the children to higher ground?
 

whm1974

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Jul 24, 2016
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Sounds like she's a great believer that when handed a lemon you make lemonade. Machines are in the habit of constructing their world view in ways that protect their egos. We could cure this as individuals, but we would have to notice we are machines bound by a program we cling to mightily because it substitutes real self respect with egotism. Why spit on self pretension when you can spit on some other pathetic lost machine. All she ever wanted was to be loved.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: what ever.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Nothing wrong? The U.S. has been interfering in the elections and internal affairs of other countries for decades and so have the Russians and Soviets before them. How is it some are keen to yell "blowback!" anytime we intervene militarily somewhere but think our own tactics would never be used against us? You'll notice no one yelling about Russian interference has sworn off the U.S. interfering in the affairs of other countries going forward.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/...y-one-meddling-in-elections-we-do-it-too.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-it-made-a-difference/?utm_term=.fa8a83d317bf
Medeling just soft peddles what Russia did. This was outright cyber warfare against our most valuable part of our Democracy, the vote. If the Russians sneaked into the country and stole documents from the Pentagon it would have been an act of war. That's essentially what happened.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Yes but who cares about what we do to other countries? We bomb other countries with relative frequency but that doesn't mean if someone bombs America we say 'well, I guess we can't respond because we had it coming!'

So yes, the US should feel free to interfere in foreign affairs wherever we see that it benefits us and we should also make any country that similarly interferes in our affairs suffer heavily for it.

You don't recall glenn1 saying 9/11 wasn't a big deal because we've killed people in other countries?

Yeah, me neither.
 

Younigue

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Feb 5, 2017
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Partisanship is driving a powerful delusion that Russia did nothing wrong. And until a Republican stands against Trump - the faithful will continue to identify with Trump. For those who are not yet lost, they need a leader to follow. To push back against the tide of insanity. Else Trump will continue to dominate their ID, and their Ego will continue to poison their minds as it is constantly rewriting sanity and logic to make up whatever excuse is needed to protect the ID.

And with the depravity that is Trump, those leaps in logic require monumental departures from reality. Insanity is full speed ahead. They may not all be lost, not yet, but who is going to show them the light? Who is going to save the Republican identity from Trump?
No clue.

For personal gain the pool from which that person could emerge has been made a murky mess. It's heartbreaking that the GOP is stepping aside rather than stepping up.

Just read something that a politician said: this is the house party's agenda. That Trump should be allowed to continue stirring hate up among his cultists because it's motivating them to vote which will in turn keep them in office. <--- obviously not a direct quote.

But again, I do not believe those sick fu*ks represent the "average American". I think they represent the sickness in America.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Hillary hate is a well conditioned & completely irrational state of mind. It flies in the face of the facts. Anybody who also hates Hillary must be their friend, right?

Of course Putin hates the Hildabeast. She'd be breaking his freaking balls were she President, rightfully so.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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No clue.

For personal gain the pool from which that person could emerge has been made a murky mess. It's heartbreaking that the GOP is stepping aside rather than stepping up.

Just read something that a politician said: this is the house party's agenda. That Trump should be allowed to continue stirring hate up among his cultists because it's motivating them to vote which will in turn keep them in office. <--- obviously not a direct quote.

But again, I do not believe those sick fu*ks represent the "average American". I think they represent the sickness in America.

Aye, but like all contagions, it is a disease that can spread. All someone has to do is identify with Trump as a person, or with his policies that they like. Hell, some of it is spurred on by his lies where he tries to promise everyone everything. Remember, he is for universal healthcare. Until he isn't. Above all Trump wants to sound good. He wants to appeal to the masses. Anyways, once that identity takes hold it is human nature for the ego to demand sacrifices. Delusions form to defend the ID, and given the depravity of that identity, Trump's "mindshare" does far greater damage to the minds of Republicans than ever before.

Thus, the woman in the OP and thousands, millions(?), of others wantonly desire a foreign power, an enemy, to attack fellow Americans so long as it targets "others". Because Americans are "other" enough to warrant attack. Part of that is the state of our partisanship, cruel as it is towards one another. Made worse by the delusion of Trump.

It would be far easier if a Republican leader stepped forward to reclaim the party. Absent that they will be consumed. A sickness that is "Average American" enough to win Presidential elections. To threaten to do so again. It is our duty as their fellow Americans to stop them. If not through Congress this year, then the elections in 2020. We have to work hard to send the right signals. That we are firm, yet we keep an open hand. We must always invite our fallen Americans to rejoin us, to partake in sanity once more. They must first identify with us before they can break free and heal themselves.

It is our duty to stop them, and then to find a way to heal the nation.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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Yes but who cares about what we do to other countries? We bomb other countries with relative frequency but that doesn't mean if someone bombs America we say 'well, I guess we can't respond because we had it coming!'

So yes, the US should feel free to interfere in foreign affairs wherever we see that it benefits us and we should also make any country that similarly interferes in our affairs suffer heavily for it.
So much this. The argument these folks make about "well, we do it so why can't they" just makes absolutely no sense.