Thinking over a job offer

[ThePresence]

I got an offer to run a nice-size high-end tile store. The pay is very nice, much more than I'm making now. I don't know too much about tile, but the owner of the store knows me, he thinks I'll be a good fit and is willing to teach me the business. He is offering a very nice salary + benefits.

I am now in the process of opening my own business, a graphic design company. I am not making very much money now, but that's to be expected. I planned on being in this for the long haul until this came along. Thing is, graphics is what I know, it's what I've been doing for years, it's what I enjoy doing and it's something that I'm good at. However tempting this is, I think I have to tell him no and give this a complete shot on my own.

Input?

 

[blackdogdeek]

what is your current life situation?

are you single or married?

children or no?

pay rent or mortgage?

imo, if single, no kids, no mortgage do the graphics thing.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: blackdogdeek
what is your current life situation?

are you single or married?

children or no?

pay rent or mortgage?

imo, if single, no kids, no mortgage do the graphics thing.

Single.
No kids.
Rent.

I'm thinking along the same lines.
Thanks.

 

[RKS]

Plan out an exit strategy. Is it worth working somewhere it 'might' turn out well over something that you love doing?

Working with/for friends can be stressful.

My brother worked in a Big 4 accounting firm with a fast-track career only to leave and work for his high-school buddy building custom homes. It was great pay and benefits but too much 'together time' started to cause friction. Now my brother works for himself they can't stand each other.

 

[blackdogdeek]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: blackdogdeek
what is your current life situation?

are you single or married?

children or no?

pay rent or mortgage?

imo, if single, no kids, no mortgage do the graphics thing.

Single.
No kids.
Rent.

I'm thinking along the same lines.
Thanks.

indeed.

there will be plenty of time to do the jobs you HAVE to do. now is the time to do the jobs you LOVE to do.

 

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: RKS
Plan out an exit strategy. Is it worth working somewhere it 'might' turn out well over something that you love doing?

Working with/for friends can be stressful.

My brother worked in a Big 4 accounting firm with a fast-track career only to leave and work for his high-school buddy building custom homes. It was great pay and benefits but too much 'together time' started to cause friction. Now my brother works for himself they can't stand each other.

I'd take the job, but try to get your graphics thing going in your free time. Get an exit strategy, and if it takes off, go for it.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: RKS
Plan out an exit strategy. Is it worth working somewhere it 'might' turn out well over something that you love doing?

Working with/for friends can be stressful.

My brother worked in a Big 4 accounting firm with a fast-track career only to leave and work for his high-school buddy building custom homes. It was great pay and benefits but too much 'together time' started to cause friction. Now my brother works for himself they can't stand each other.

I'd take the job, but try to get your graphics thing going in your free time. Get an exit strategy, and if it takes off, go for it.

That's not an option. Trying to get something going in my free time is not giving it a chance to succeed. I already have clients, an office and what not. If I can't deliver the work in a timely fashion they will head for the hills.

 

[ruffilb]

In that case, I'd just go with the graphics stuff, if you're already that far into it.

You're single, you can take a few risks.

 

[CTrain]

How much are we talking about ??
More info on the offer would help.
Sounds like a stress free job.
Trying to make a business successful would be more stressful.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: RKS
Plan out an exit strategy. Is it worth working somewhere it 'might' turn out well over something that you love doing?

Working with/for friends can be stressful.

My brother worked in a Big 4 accounting firm with a fast-track career only to leave and work for his high-school buddy building custom homes. It was great pay and benefits but too much 'together time' started to cause friction. Now my brother works for himself they can't stand each other.

I'd take the job, but try to get your graphics thing going in your free time. Get an exit strategy, and if it takes off, go for it.

That's not an option. Trying to get something going in my free time is not giving it a chance to succeed. I already have clients, an office and what not. If I can't deliver the work in a timely fashion they will head for the hills.

Agreed.
What ever you choose should get 100% of your time. Anything else will fail.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: CTrain
How much are we talking about ??
More info on the offer would help.
Sounds like a stress free job.
Trying to make a business successful would be more stressful.

It's good money, significantly more than I'm making now, I don't want to get into numbers.
I have no way of knowing if it's a stress free job and there's no reason to assume it would be. Most jobs have stress involved.
I agree that starting a business is probably more stressful, but the rewards can be much greater down the line.

 

[chusteczka]

It seems you have already convinced yourself towards your new graphics business. Do not let yourself be sidetracked so easily and stick with what you enjoy. That will be your true reward. You will probably regret it later if you work in the tile business for someone else.

Besides, I would much prefer an intellectual position rather than a tile management position.

 

[CTrain]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: CTrain
How much are we talking about ??
More info on the offer would help.
Sounds like a stress free job.
Trying to make a business successful would be more stressful.

It's good money, significantly more than I'm making now, I don't want to get into numbers.
I have no way of knowing if it's a stress free job and there's no reason to assume it would be. Most jobs have stress involved.
I agree that starting a business is probably more stressful, but the rewards can be much greater down the line.

Well, I have experience in managing people so if you tell me what range the salary is in, I can give you my opinion.
Don't have to be exact.
Like upper 30s, mid 40s, over 50s.....Bonuses ???
Or if its per hr....15/hr, 20/hr ??

 

[Patt]

I'd have to say in stick to the stuff you love ... politely tell him you're trying to make a go of what you enjoy. Tell him that if it doesn't work out, you'll get in touch 🙂

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: CTrain
How much are we talking about ??
More info on the offer would help.
Sounds like a stress free job.
Trying to make a business successful would be more stressful.

It's good money, significantly more than I'm making now, I don't want to get into numbers.
I have no way of knowing if it's a stress free job and there's no reason to assume it would be. Most jobs have stress involved.
I agree that starting a business is probably more stressful, but the rewards can be much greater down the line.

Well, I have experience in managing people so if you tell me what range the salary is in, I can give you my opinion.
Don't have to be exact.
Like upper 30s, mid 40s, over 50s.....Bonuses ???
Or if its per hr....15/hr, 20/hr ??

Over 50, I don't know about bonuses.
I have management experience as well which he knows, so that factors into the offer.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Patt
I'd have to say in stick to the stuff you love ... politely tell him you're trying to make a go of what you enjoy. Tell him that if it doesn't work out, you'll get in touch 🙂

Unfortunately, that opening will not last too long.

 

[CTrain]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: CTrain
How much are we talking about ??
More info on the offer would help.
Sounds like a stress free job.
Trying to make a business successful would be more stressful.

It's good money, significantly more than I'm making now, I don't want to get into numbers.
I have no way of knowing if it's a stress free job and there's no reason to assume it would be. Most jobs have stress involved.
I agree that starting a business is probably more stressful, but the rewards can be much greater down the line.

Well, I have experience in managing people so if you tell me what range the salary is in, I can give you my opinion.
Don't have to be exact.
Like upper 30s, mid 40s, over 50s.....Bonuses ???
Or if its per hr....15/hr, 20/hr ??

Over 50, I don't know about bonuses.
I have management experience as well which he knows, so that factors into the offer.

If its over 50s, take the job.
Make some money, save some money, enjoy having money for a little while before pursuing your interest.

 

[dxkj]

Easy

Work 40 hours a week making this money, work 60 hours a week in your spare time on the graphics design. Save up money until you can switch to graphics design plan full time

 

[xanis]

Take thee job for the benefits if nothing else, then work the job part time and do your grahpic design stuff the other time.

 

[j00fek]

Originally posted by: blackdogdeek
what is your current life situation?

are you single or married?

children or no?

pay rent or mortgage?

imo, if single, no kids, no mortgage do the graphics thing.

:thumbsup:

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: CTrain
How much are we talking about ??
More info on the offer would help.
Sounds like a stress free job.
Trying to make a business successful would be more stressful.

It's good money, significantly more than I'm making now, I don't want to get into numbers.
I have no way of knowing if it's a stress free job and there's no reason to assume it would be. Most jobs have stress involved.
I agree that starting a business is probably more stressful, but the rewards can be much greater down the line.

Well, I have experience in managing people so if you tell me what range the salary is in, I can give you my opinion.
Don't have to be exact.
Like upper 30s, mid 40s, over 50s.....Bonuses ???
Or if its per hr....15/hr, 20/hr ??

Over 50, I don't know about bonuses.
I have management experience as well which he knows, so that factors into the offer.

If its over 50s, take the job.
Make some money, save some money, enjoy having money for a little while before pursuing your interest.

That would require starting again from scratch and I already invested much blood, sweat and tears.
I think I'm gonna give the graphics thing a go, I can always find another job if this doesn't work out. I get offers pretty frequently from people who know me when I was doing management. Later on I may not a chance to do this, right now I have the freedom to screw up.
I do appreciate your input though.

 

[everman]

In your situation, you are able to take the risk and do what you want to do (graphics). This is easiest to do when you're young with no major obligations, go for it.
good luck

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: RKS
Plan out an exit strategy. Is it worth working somewhere it 'might' turn out well over something that you love doing?

Working with/for friends can be stressful.

My brother worked in a Big 4 accounting firm with a fast-track career only to leave and work for his high-school buddy building custom homes. It was great pay and benefits but too much 'together time' started to cause friction. Now my brother works for himself they can't stand each other.

I'd take the job, but try to get your graphics thing going in your free time. Get an exit strategy, and if it takes off, go for it.

That's not an option. Trying to get something going in my free time is not giving it a chance to succeed. I already have clients, an office and what not. If I can't deliver the work in a timely fashion they will head for the hills.

You can do both depending on how many hours you are expected to be at the tile store. If you start getting too many clients you can hire help. Of course if you aren't hurting for money right now you could just focus entirely on your business, but whatever you choose, keep in mind that you will be working 60-80 hours a week if you want to build a successful business you have to pretty much give up on free time. Think of it as cramming 40 years of work into 7 or 8 years.

 

[CTrain]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: CTrain
How much are we talking about ??
More info on the offer would help.
Sounds like a stress free job.
Trying to make a business successful would be more stressful.

It's good money, significantly more than I'm making now, I don't want to get into numbers.
I have no way of knowing if it's a stress free job and there's no reason to assume it would be. Most jobs have stress involved.
I agree that starting a business is probably more stressful, but the rewards can be much greater down the line.

Well, I have experience in managing people so if you tell me what range the salary is in, I can give you my opinion.
Don't have to be exact.
Like upper 30s, mid 40s, over 50s.....Bonuses ???
Or if its per hr....15/hr, 20/hr ??

Over 50, I don't know about bonuses.
I have management experience as well which he knows, so that factors into the offer.

If its over 50s, take the job.
Make some money, save some money, enjoy having money for a little while before pursuing your interest.

That would require starting again from scratch and I already invested much blood, sweat and tears.
I think I'm gonna give the graphics thing a go, I can always find another job if this doesn't work out. I get offers pretty frequently from people who know me when I was doing management. Later on I may not a chance to do this, right now I have the freedom to screw up.
I do appreciate your input though.

I think just from your posts and such, you never had a nice paying job and its always been a struggle for you.
I just thought making some good money for once would be nice for you to enjoy.

I was very simple like you, never really had a real job and just making enough money to enjoy life.
When I did get a real job, I saved enough money to buy a house, be debt free, etc...
Now I'm back to relaxing again.

Now sorry if I presumption is wrong, I'm just speaking from experience.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: CTrain
I think just from your posts and such, you never had a nice paying job and its always been a struggle for you.
I just thought making some good money for once would be nice for you to enjoy.

I was very simple like you, never really had a real job and just making enough money to enjoy life.
When I did get a real job, I saved enough money to buy a house, be debt free, etc...
Now I'm back to relaxing again.

Now sorry if I presumption is wrong, I'm just speaking from experience.

Appreciate it, but you are offbase. I've had some very nice paying jobs, and I can get nice paying jobs now if I am so inclined. I can get a job today in publishing, and make nice money, but I would have to put up with the stress that comes along with impossible deadlines and what not. Been there, done that.