Thinking about updating my graphics card(128 GeForce FX 5600 -> 256 Radeon 9800 XT).. will I get a dramatic difference?

TheVrolok

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So I've got a 128 mb GeForce FX 5600 ... and Deus Ex 2 has made me consider a new graphics card, I'm thinking about selling my GeForce and buying ATI's 256mb 9800 XT.. The question is, I'll probably be spending about 300ish for the upgrade, now will it actually be worth it? Will I get any kind of serious increase in graphics performance, or should I just wait awhile and upgrade later?
 

Richdog

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Save money and get a 9800np or PRO. The difference in performance between those cards and an XT is marginal, especially when you overclock them, and as always it will mean that you spend less, meaning you can spend the difference on something else for your rig, or even put it towards the next card you buy. The XT is a waste of cash for the extra performance you get, it simply does not warrant the price unless you're some kind of benchmark freak (unfortunately there's many of those around). A 9800 will run the latest games for another year or so before it starts to lag, methinks. :):beer:

EDIT - Forgot to mention, the performance difference you will see between an FX5600 and an ATI 9800 will be incredible, that's a guarantee.:beer:
 

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Originally posted by: Richdog
Save money and get a 9800np or PRO. The difference in performance is marginal, especially when you overclock them, and as always it will mean that you spend less, meaning you can spend the difference on something else for your rig, or even put it towards the next card you buy. :):beer:

Yes, that's the most intelligent answer.
 

modedepe

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It'd be a huge upgrade, but I agree that a 9800np/pro would be a better purchase, unless of course you have money to throw away.
 

TheVrolok

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I assume you guys mean the 128 mb 9800 np/pro would be much more cost effective? So that extra 256 mb doesn't make a huge difference or am I totally off and you mean the 256 9800 np/pro? I never really spent the time to get into graphics cards and as such I don't know too much about 'em. What would overclocking be like? Easy, stable I assume? Thanks for all the help.
 

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I also suggest you use the internet and read a lot of resources about overclocking, performance etc. just to get yourself clued up on them. It would definately be worth your while.:beer:
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: Richdog
I also suggest you use the internet and read a lot of resources about overclocking, performance etc. just to get yourself clued up on them. It would definately be worth your while.:beer:

I agree wholeheartedly, do you suggest any specific hardware sites? I can look at all the reviews I can find on google but I'm not sure which may be biased or which are just poor reviews ...
 

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The difference will be like night and day. If you have the budget then go for it.
 

TheVrolok

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I was just looking at THIS site and it seems to me that the 256 9800 Pro only BARELY BARELY outperforms the 128 9800 Pro .. so what's the point in the exta 128 mb video RAM, does it really make any difference at all? I've also been reading and there seems to be some debate about whether the 9800 np can be OC'd to perform as well as the 9800 pro.
 

jim1976

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I don't know how often you change gpu, but I consider this move pointless.
I would definately wait for the new generation of both Nvidia and Ati to come into the scene.
Why spend so much money on buying another dx9 card? OK the cards are not comparable(especially in perfomance levels), but think that with almost the same amount of money you could get the new ones when they are released. ;)
If you want it now, go for 9800pro.It is o/c almost to XT levels and the difference in price/perfomance is so much greater compared to 9800xt.
But I would definately wait.
 

BFG10K

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so what's the point in the exta 128 mb video RAM, does it really make any difference at all?
Depending on the game it can make a significant difference. However if the cost difference between the 128 MB version and the 256 MB version is quite high then it's probably worth going with the 128 MB part.

I've also been reading and there seems to be some debate about whether the 9800 np can be OC'd to perform as well as the 9800 pro.
There will be always debate because overclocking of any kind is never gauranteed.
 

TheVrolok

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My mom really wants to buy me something for Christmas and I don't want anything really, the only thing I'd consider is a computer upgrade really.. But I've got a p4 2.8, with a gig of ram, enough HDD space to last me, etc.. and I could sell my 128 mb GeForce FX 5600 and pick up a 9800 np at a 50-70 dollar difference. So 50-70 bucks to upgrade to a non pro and OC it to a pro. It seems like a good deal to me.
 

jim1976

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
My mom really wants to buy me something for Christmas and I don't want anything really, the only thing I'd consider is a computer upgrade really.. But I've got a p4 2.8, with a gig of ram, enough HDD space to last me, etc.. and I could sell my 128 mb GeForce FX 5600 and pick up a 9800 np at a 50-70 dollar difference. So 50-70 bucks to upgrade to a non pro and OC it to a pro. It seems like a good deal to me.


;) :beer:
 

modedepe

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Most of the 9800np's anymore won't oc to pro level. The reason is, most are shipping now with cheap infineon ram rather than samsung. If you buy a np, don't expect to get it to pro levels. If you want a pro, then get the real pro. You can find them under $300 now. With the ram, most games currently are fine with only 128mb. There's only a few that make use of 256mb.
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: modedepe
Most of the 9800np's anymore won't oc to pro level. The reason is, most are shipping now with cheap infineon ram rather than samsung. If you buy a np, don't expect to get it to pro levels. If you want a pro, then get the real pro. You can find them under $300 now. With the ram, most games currently are fine with only 128mb. There's only a few that make use of 256mb.

Alright, so I'm thinking a 128 mb 9800 Pro then. Thanks for all your help guys.