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Thinking about playing WoW again

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There's not a ton to be had on the "casual" side of WoW. The primary end-game experiences are raiding and arena. If you try to avoid those, you'll generally just end up bored and then let yourself fall back into raiding.

Agreed. I tried to play it casually, but instead I spent most of my time running around Dalaran waiting for stuff to happen or out doing some random boring dailies.

I also didn't enjoy raiding at all. First, it's usually a waiting game waiting for everyone to get ready, and once everyone is ready, it's 2-3+ hours of non-stop raiding (at least with my guild). No breaks, just kept pushing. I hate the idea that once you start, you pretty much have to be glued to the screen for the entire time of that raid.

And even then, after a couple of weeks of raiding, you're doing the same stuff over, and over again. Just became too dry for me.

The most fun I had playing WoW was honestly the level up process. I leveled up 3 characters to 80 (Alliance Warlock, Horde Shaman, Alliance Death Knight), and I felt that was enough to experience the game.

PVP wasn't bad, but it always felt like it was more about the gear you had, and less about the skill. I guess that's the point, I just wish it was the other way around.

I'll probably come back for Cataclysm, but only to level up and run through the new dungeons once or twice.

playing BF2:BC right now but slowly getting tired of the maps..

Heh, I hear ya. Good game, but the lack of maps/locations is killing my interest in it as of late. I need variety.
 
In the same boat as you OP ... stopped about a year ago before ICC. Had a crazy geared-out priest, well equipped hunter and a decent mage. Raided quite a bit, 3 nights a week, sometimes 4. Soul sucking experience, never gonna be a raider again.

*MIGHT* give Cat a shot, just for the leveling up part and the new quests 🙂
 
Idea.

Sell your account, make some good real life $, and start a new account. Enjoy the lower levels.

A lot of games get old once you get to the point where you can't get much better. Playing Gran Turismo when you have every car fully upgraded is boring. Maybe it's time to restart?
 
If you're set on jumping right back into raiding, look around and find a server where you can get into successful pug raids on a whim. Between the guild recruitment forums and the individual realm forums you can usually get a good idea of the raiding scene. Even if there are a decent number of seemingly hardcore guilds on a server, its overall player base may not be that great. Just ask on the realm forum and see what types of responses you get.

I'm all for the streamlining to allow people to experience most content, but it does make it harder to sort through those who probably shouldn't be there. I've been in and out for the last 6 months, quickly frustrated over the lack of people who just want to jump on and get shit done in a short period of time. Right now its all about grinding for badges. Cataclysm should fix that to some extent. I love the endgame boss fights, but raiding these days comes with either too much time commitment, or too much frustration over people who don't care enough to accomplish something.

I would have transferred to another realm (got a friend on another realm pugging ICC 10 and 25 clears) but I'm heading back to school in the fall. I just rerolled on another server, slowly levelling, might never touch my other toons again. If you want to have fun I would recommend the same. I know some people who refuse to reroll or transfer, talking about the time they have invested in all their toons on one server. If you keep looking at it like that then it won't ever be fun again.
 
Casual WoW involves running dailies, crafting, 5 person dungeons [ie: dalian dailies], the 10/25 dragon and BG instances in Outland, and battlegrounds [sorry for not being specific - but the last time I logged in was about 1.5 years again].

There are quite a lot of guilds which will accept casual players - I'd suggest applying with one so you'll have access to free combines, enchants, etc.
 
I've found the player base to have actually gotten better over the years. When the game first came out the number of hunters that didn't know how I kept resisting wingclip (was actually immune from blessing of freedom) in duels was completely staggering just as one example. Granted the general wow player is still pretty terrible.

The top end difficulty of the game is still somewhat there too; it's just they've fleshed out the area between solo/5 mans/small raids/large raids immensely. The hardest stuff has gotten a bit easier, but people over exaggerate the degree because there's stuff to actually do besides beat your head against the hardest encounters available.

The hardest boss in the game (heroic lk25) is actually a pretty difficult boss, especially with 5-10% buff. Speaking as a hardcore vanilla raider, it's definitely up there with 4h and twin emps difficulty. The other 11/12 bosses in the instance however are pretty much a joke for a serious raiding guild. I feel that the difficulty at the very top is at the same level as vanilla but then it drops way off. the first 11/12 heroic icc25 bosses with 0% buff are easier than the bosses preceding huhuran in aq40 or most bosses in naxx40. I mean a top 10 guild can kill the harder ones in 2-10 attempts from the first pull to a kill - back in vanilla the 2nd or 3rd most difficult boss fights in an instance took many weeks, look at vaelstrasz or patchwerk etc.
 
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The hardest boss in the game (heroic lk25) is actually a pretty difficult boss, especially with 5-10% buff. Speaking as a hardcore vanilla raider, it's definitely up there with 4h and twin emps difficulty. The other 11/12 bosses in the instance however are pretty much a joke for a serious raiding guild. I feel that the difficulty at the very top is at the same level as vanilla but then it drops way off. the first 11/12 heroic icc25 bosses with 0% buff are easier than the bosses preceding huhuran in aq40 or most bosses in naxx40. I mean a top 10 guild can kill the harder ones in 2-10 attempts from the first pull to a kill - back in vanilla the 2nd or 3rd most difficult boss fights in an instance took many weeks, look at vaelstrasz or patchwerk etc.

I remember vael and his stupid 1 hour despawn timer... that was the biggest bitch. I honestly don't plan on getting into a top 10 guild hell I'm not even worried about a guild. unless I can get one that would work perfectly with my schedule and even then it might not be worth it. I'll probably reactivate my account and dick around for a month or so see how I feel about it from there.
 
I found it frustrating to play that game casually...course I had a warlock, and unless you have uber gear in a warlock you lose to everybody; (but when you have uber gear you smear everybody, which is partly why everyone hates warlocks)

but anyways, I found levelling with a friend just tooling around to be very relaxing. No rush to get better gear so you can stomp people (and you're not getting stomped by 80s withe T12 gear or whatever tier they're at now), just enjoy the scenery, kinda like going outside to view nice stuff. And you could do it on several alts in parallel to take advantage of rested XP and level them in different zones/areas for changes of scenery.
But ultimately it was just a waste of time because you can't do it for 2 hours / weekend and get anywhere, it had to be like 5-6 to actually feel like I accomplished anything. And while it's fun, you still suffer from the "oh there went my day" syndrome, which I hate.

If you do do it, do warrior or mage or deathknight if you haven't already, I found the instant-gratification with them to be fun.

Hope this is helpful?
 
i came back, after teh initial oh wow im back wore off i was bored fast... now i just do daily pvp + random and sell stuff
 
I've had thoughts of coming back recently...

I only played for about 7-8 months and got my main up to lvl 78. Stopped playing January / 2009. Mainly stopped playing because it was interfering w\ well... sleep, school, work, and... oh yeah... my wife who would be sleeping on the couch while I played.
 
Idea.

Sell your account, make some good real life $, and start a new account. Enjoy the lower levels.

A lot of games get old once you get to the point where you can't get much better. Playing Gran Turismo when you have every car fully upgraded is boring. Maybe it's time to restart?

where do you sell your accounts at? ebay?
 
I stopped playing WoW since January of this year 😛

Never looked back since and much happier than ever :thumbsup:

I used to be a hardcore raider/Arenajunkie (2200+ rating with a disc priest alt and ret/prot pally). It was really fun, but it gets old fast.
 
For anyone thinking about coming back, read the WoW sticky. Do you want to turn into that? If so, proceed as planned.

airdata: If all that happened to you I couldn't imagine why you would consider playing again.
 
For anyone thinking about coming back, read the WoW sticky. Do you want to turn into that? If so, proceed as planned.

airdata: If all that happened to you I couldn't imagine why you would consider playing again.

Honestly, that's not possible for me. I'm way too busy and have my priorities straight and they'll stay that way. between work, the gym, kids, my gf I'm pretty busy just want to do something to relax from time to time... If at any point it starts to interfere with any of the other more important areas of my life, it gets canceled.
 
Idea.

Sell your account, make some good real life $, and start a new account. Enjoy the lower levels.

A lot of games get old once you get to the point where you can't get much better. Playing Gran Turismo when you have every car fully upgraded is boring. Maybe it's time to restart?

You can't exactly sell them for shit anymore ... no one pays like they used to. 60% are scam buyers anyhow.
 
I always see WoW accounts on my local CL and they want somehting like $400+ I email em just to ask if they're serious.
 
WoW is surprisingly very casual friendly these days. I've played since beta and it has never been as easy to play casually as it is now. The last time I played was just last month and with no guild, no friends on the server, just me alone, I still managed to pug almost everything. The only content I didn't get to experience was the latter half of ICC, mainly because my gear when I restarted was barely Naxx capable and I was more interested in playing all my alts instead of focusing on one.

Personally, I've devolved from hardcore vanilla raider into the hardcore casual, so I simply subscribe a month or two at a time whenever I feel the urge to see the new stuff. With seven max level characters, it's very easy to just pick one or a few and gear up whichever I feel like playing. The best improvement over the years in my opinion has been the talent trees really making each class play three different ways, so if you're bored with one play style, you can either respec or switch to an alt.

Oh, and gouging out some more gold from the auction house took some time as well. I dropped over 30k gold buying mats for boe gear. This time around, Blizzard added 2 patterns per raid instance per armor type/spec so if you have the gold, you can get two icc25 level pieces, two toc25 pieces, and 2 ulduar 25 pieces without setting foot in instances. However, I would recommend the toc25 only since those are bet bang for buck and heroics drop badges for offset/tier gear.

Pugging dungeons is much easier with cross-server queues, though you pay for it with the jack asses who go afk or jerk around. Even heroics are relatively easy since so many people have icc gear. If you run into a group with non-icc gear, it's even a bit refreshing to actually have to pay attention. Queue times for the ruin battlegroup are about 10-20 min for dps, 1-10 min for healers and 1-5 min for tanks, usually very fast during peak hours.
Depending on your server, you can even pug all the raids up to icc25. Heroic modes are probably out of the question for the most part unless you get a lucky pick.

However, for the most part, you can easily pug the first wing of icc while brain dead. I last played on Lothar Alliance and while the raid progression is somewhere in the back, finishing the newest raid instances weeks or even a couple months after world firsts, the server has always finished, so pugging the latest isntance is simply a matter of time. Some servers are so dead or devoid of ability they barely progress through raids during the entire expansion. Others, as mentioned previously in this thread, may have very good hardcore raid progression, but casuals are left in the cold.

If you're feeling the itch, I wouldn't really wait for Cataclysm. Blizzard would have to rush a few things to make a Christmas deadline. Whether they do, only the execs know, but either way, like both of the other expansions, there will be a pre-patch on the live servers to update everything in preparation for the live push. All talent trees are going to be overhauled to an extent, though never as much as they say they want to do. All armor stats are being overhauled again, consolidating and shifting gem colors to reflect changes. It would probably be better for casuals coming back to the game for a short while to see missed content while the game is still using the system and mechanics they're used to. When I re-subscribed last month after being away for almost a year, I only had to figure out new talent specs for a couple of my alts before hopping into a dungeon queue. With cataclysm, it's much more than just talents moving around the tree or modified slightly and it's affecting all classes and specs, not just a few.
 
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