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Thinking about it more....now which is more reasonable

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Reading and thinking about this more, now I'm questioning the system I was planning to build. Need new ideas. Originaly I was set to get AMD 64 but now.....Maybe somebody can enlighten me....

System Use:
1. Oracle and DB2 to be installed
2. MS .NET to be installed
3. OS will be either Win 2003 server or WinXP pro

Primary use is Development in DB2/Oracle and .NET (Work Related)
Games will be occasional (weekends or weeknights)

Will this work:
Athlon XP 3xxx, 1Gig RAM, X800 Pro, 2 SATA in Raid 0, 1 SATA backup

Will I notice a big performance difference running
Athlon 64 3000

Databases will contain just a gig or so of data for testing and development.

Any opinions appreciated.
 
Unless you are on a tight budget (the X800 would say no), go with the A64.
Maybe wait on the X800 & use that money towards the A64, & get a 9800 Pro for now till the new video card prices are reasonable.
 
Yes I'm not really in a tight budget but I'm just wondering if the difference in performance in what I'm planning to do is noticable from the XP to the 64? I won't be running any 64bit OS anytime soon until it's been proven to be stable (that's why I'm still running win2K server). Gaming is not a priority but would be great to have nice graphics while playing. Mostly database development and application development. I'm leaning towards AMD 64 but reading around if XP will work as well they why should I pay for a premium price if I won't even notice the difference. I'm also planning to OC whatever proc I'm getting to a point where stability is not sacrificed.
 
Definately go for the A64 3000 if you need the machine now. If you have a month you can go with s939 and dual channel motherboards. I am a software developer (mostly database/reports) and Hammer family is the best thing under the Sun that has happened to the people wanting fast Database machines for cheap (of course I am having in mind dual Opteron but even a single CPU A64 is pretty good for a small DB server).
Also there is already 64bit port of DB2 for x86-64 for Linux so you may want to look into dual boot.

And like the previous poster asked - what is this X800 Pro for? If you are not a gamer save this money and buy a SCSI RAID or dual Opteron instead - you will have some real nice DB/Development server.
Also going with dual Opteron will give you the option to use a LOT of memory - I've seen dual MBs that can take 16GB (or more realistically 8GB if you do not want to pay insane prices for 2GB DIMMs). Now memory is expensive but in the next year 1GB ECC REG DIMMs may became cheap (most likely) so you can use the same machine with tons of memory and it will fly even with medium sized production database.
My development machine (dual 246 w 4GB ram) is killing the production machine (4way 2.8GHz Xeon with 6GB RAM) in our medium sized DB/application - I had to fight with my boss at work to make them buy a 4-way Opteron instead of swapping my development machine with the production one (my biggest problem with the 4-way Xeon actually is the noise not the 25-30% less speed - this thing is like jet but I can not replace the fans because of support contract).
 
The AMD64 chips are supposed to be unbelievably good at compilation, so if you're doing large-scale application development, that could be an edge. They're also very good for gaming. I don't know how they would impact database work, but it would almost certainly run a database server faster than an AXP.
 
My vote is for the A64. If you can, I'd wait until the new socket comes out. Then you'll have dual channel and more upgradability (is that a word?).
 
more upgradability (is that a word?).
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up·grade ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pgrd)
v. up·grad·ed, up·grad·ing, up·grades
v. tr.

1. To raise to a higher grade or standard: upgrading their military defenses.
2. To improve the quality of (livestock) by selective breeding for desired characteristics.
3. Computer Science.
1. To replace (a software program) with a more recently released, enhanced version.
2. To replace (a hardware device) with one that provides better performance.

upgrada·ble adj.
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upgradability

<jargon> (Or "upgradeability") How easily upgrades to a
system can be produced and applied. E.g. "Buying a PC with
more PCI slots gives you increased upgradeability."

(1999-10-11)
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Sort of. It would be better to say "You'll have a system with dual channel memory, and it will be more upgradable."
 
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