Thinking about getting a new burner a few quesions.

[DarK SagE]

First of all, are there any burners that can burn saecd protect games without having to replace the exe with a crack? (this is for back-up)

I'm looking to spend anywhere from 150-300 dollars and em looking at anythng from 16x-8x recording speed. CDRW speed is not important but good mp3 ripping speed is a plus.

The new TDK's and Plextor's seem nice, but are these big brands really better than say a Ricoh?

 

[Angrymarshmello]

The burning of protected games has to do with the burning software, not the burner. However, the burner must support the fxns that software has in it, and most newer ones do. (ex, Clone CD can copy CDs exactly since it does it bit by bit)

And a 16x will be well over $300. A Plextor 12x/10x/32x would cost around $250, and it includes burn proof technology.

And a lot of the "no name" burners are big name burners with a diff label. (Plextor and Yamaha both make burners that sell under diff names) Ricoh is alright, but when theres about a $10-20 diff, why risk it?

 

[tigger80]

i second the plextor, or you can get their cheaper model to save some money, i think its rated 8x4x32

 

[Imported]

Can't go wrong with Plextor.

 

[Daaavo]

Months ago (possibly a year) I upgraded my Panasonic 7502 CDR with a 8/20 Plextor. I've never been happier with a product.

 

[LXi]

Try one of those new Yamaha 16x10x40 ones. Those are awesome.

If not, the Plextors arent bad.

 

[fake]

CloneCD is the only burning package that does *exact* bit by bit copies and can effectively bypass all practical protection schemes. Afaik, not all burners are supported but the list increases with every release. I recommend the plextor, because it has the burn proof and is simply fast as hell

 

[Warrenton]

Plextor just release the 12/10/32 with BURN Proof in a SCSI version for those interested. Rumor has it that there will be Plextor 20X drives by the end of the year. And yes the will be CLV too.

 

[Do'Urden]

Yep, I'd definetly go with the Plextor, best around. And with the burnproof technology, it's definetly worth it. I'm gona sell my PlexWriter 12x4x32x SCSI and get the SCSI version of the 12x10x32x with burnproof, not that I'm getting any coasters or anything... I'm just crazy for the best!

 

[Relf Lauren]

Wow, I didn't know they had media that allowed you to write faster than 12X...

Relf Lauren

 

[Mark R]

There is some 16x media about.

Being cynical however, I doubt that the media has been reformulated, rather that an official standard has been released, and that the old media just happens to pass.

As for the burner, Plextor have the best reputation. There is a new Yamaha 16x burner due to come out soon, which will be the fastest available. Yamaha also have a splendid reputation, and there is relatively little to choose between these 2 brands.

The major difference between these 2 drives is that the Plextor supports BURN proof - a technique which can stop and restart burning if the data flow to the recorder is interrupted. Yamaha drives do not support this, if the flow is interrupted, burning is cancelled and the disc ruined.

Plextor drives are also fully supported by CloneCD, allowing you to make perfect copies of any software that ships on CD. Yamaha drives (with the exception of the upcoming 16x) are not fully supported.

 

[DarK SagE]

OK do u guys know of any good stores to look at burners? Online stores, that is.

 

[noxipoo]

anyone try to use a slower tested cdr and burn it at a high speed? like 8x cds at 12x? what happens?

 

[nuttervm]

many of us burn lower tested cdr media with a 4x rating on our plextors. that is one of the advantages. in my expereince it will burn any media at any speed, with no coasters. i'd like to see more info on that 20x plex! i would sell my 12x4x32x scsi for one of those, just cuz i'm an animal like that.

 

[NuovoTech]

Generally this can not work, as CDR/W senses max write speed of new CDR/W disc & sets max burn speed automatically...my Plex does this.

>like 8x cds at 12x? what happens?

 

[Mark R]

CDR discs do not have a machine-readable maximum speed programmed into them. Any recorder can attempt to record them at any speed.

Usually there is no problem if you record faster than the maximum speed written on the packet. As I alluded to earlier, there is almost never a change in composition between different speed grades of a particular type of disc.

CDRW is a different matter: CDRW writing is more complex - higher speed discs need a different composition and need a very different method of writing. Because of this, CDRW discs are programmed with a minimum and maximum speed at the factory. Recorders will refuse to record outside of this range of speeds.

 

[nuttervm]

i agree with mark r