"Think of Donald Trump as the Martin Luther King of health care"

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Are you fucking kidding me... seriously, drumpf, the MLK of health care.

"Think of Donald Trump as the Martin Luther King of health care," Lord told CNN's Alisyn Camerota Thursday on "New Day." "When I was a kid, President Kennedy did not want to introduce the civil rights bill because he said it wasn't popular and he didn't have the votes for it."


"Dr. King kept putting people in the streets in harm's way to put the pressure on so the bill would be introduced," the CNN political commentator added.

Lord was immediately called on this by Democratic activist Symone Sanders
"You do understand that Dr. King was marching for civil rights because people that looked like me were being beaten, dogs were being sicced on them, basic human rights were being withheld from these people merely because of the color of their skin," she said. "So let's not equate Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. -- humanitarian and Nobel Peace Prize winner -- to the vagina-grabbing president, Donald Trump."

That's beyond a a stretch to consider drumpf as a peer to MLK in any aspect in any way. And I hope lord is taken to the mat for proclaiming such an idiotic comparison.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Are you fucking kidding me... seriously, drumpf, the MLK of health care.



Lord was immediately called on this by Democratic activist Symone Sanders


That's beyond a a stretch to consider drumpf as a peer to MLK in any aspect in any way. And I hope lord is taken to the mat for proclaiming such an idiotic comparison.

Maybe we should adjust our stance from 'don't bring up Hitler on public television' to 'don't make comparisons between living people and historically significant dead people on public television'.
 
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Maybe we should adjust our stance from 'don't bring up Hitler on public television' to 'don't make comparisons between living people and historically significant dead people on public television'.
Well he could have said that he's the Nero of health care. I mean, that would be pretty apt. And Nero's pretty historically significant, at least the mythos around him is
 
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fskimospy

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"I still have a dream, a dream deeply rooted in the American dream – one day this nation will rise up and give all its money to insurance companies and hospitals I own"? :eek: :unamused:

'I have a dream of taking medical care away from the poor and sick in order to finance a permanent tax cut for the ultra rich' was in the original text of the 'I have a dream' speech but that part was cut for time I think.

Just when you think these clowns can't get any more ridiculous.
 

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Stripping the healthcare of millions as a moral imperative on par with desegregation and ending disenfranchisement.

Ok then.
 

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'I have a dream of taking medical care away from the poor and sick in order to finance a permanent tax cut for the ultra rich' was in the original text of the 'I have a dream' speech but that part was cut for time I think.

Just when you think these clowns can't get any more ridiculous.

Pretty sure that Paul Ryan spends a good 5-10 minutes daydreaming this exact scene every few hours.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Well he could have said that he's the Nero of health care. I mean, that would be pretty apt. And Nero's pretty historically significant, at least the mythos around him is

Yeah, but I don't trust most public tv speakers to be cultural or intelligent enough to make apt comparisons, so it's probably safest if they don't try.

Doesn't help that most viewership would assume they meant the bad guy from the '09 Star Trek.
 

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Yeah, but I don't trust most public tv speakers to be cultural or intelligent enough to make apt comparisons, so it's probably safest if they don't try.

Doesn't help that most viewership would assume they meant the bad guy from the '09 Star Trek.

Most of the Romulan stuff in Star Trek uses Roman and Greek terminology.
 
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'I have a dream of taking medical care away from the poor and sick in order to finance a permanent tax cut for the ultra rich' was in the original text of the 'I have a dream' speech but that part was cut for time I think.

Just when you think these clowns can't get any more ridiculous.

Except it's always the middle class getting socked not the bogeymen ultra rich that is always promoted as the devil behind our disparities when wealth transfer laws and regulations are passed,

The healthcare mandate with penalties as well as those that lost their plan or doctor because they stayed out of the healthcare debate due to the erroneous belief that it wasn't their problem ,

because Obama told them they could keep their doctor and plan, were not part of this ultra rich bogeymen phony liberals keep pointing the finger at.
 

fskimospy

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Except it's always the middle class getting socked not the bogeymen ultra rich that is always promoted as the devil behind our disparities when wealth transfer laws and regulations are passed,

No it isn't. Where did you get this idea from, specifically? Do you know why Republicans wanted to repeal the ACA before cutting taxes? It's because the ACA is financed overwhelmingly by taxes on the ultra rich.

If you think otherwise can you specify? It's funny that you would try to argue this when Republicans have come out and stated as much publicly.

The healthcare mandate with penalties as well as those that lost their plan or doctor because they stayed out of the healthcare debate due to the erroneous belief that it wasn't their problem ,

because Obama told them they could keep their doctor and plan, were not part of this ultra rich bogeymen phony liberals keep pointing the finger at.

Do you know what percentage of Americans were subject to the uninsured mandate penalty who couldn't get subsidized insurance? I'm interested at your guess. It's amazing to me how successful rich people have been at convincing conservatives that they aren't their interests and yours are aligned.
 

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Faith is a means by which people who unconsciously hate themselves can be brought to a state of self acceptance in the understanding they are sinners but still loved by God, that they have been forgiven but as with everything else the cunning who love the ego and thus worship satin, turned faith into a religion of profit y convincing people to believe anything. Once people of blind belief in a religion are convinced that religion is political they can be convinced to believe anything including that they should have personal choice of worthless healthcare plans over something mandated that gives them something of quality. By this means of indoctrination, the association of ideology with virtue, a nation of marching morons who stab themselves in the back can be created. The faithful are impervious to reason.
 

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You guys don't enjoy the professional conservative trolling of Jeffery Lord? He is like the king of that s***, I wish there was a liberal equivalent on fox and friends but Lord is by far the best of the trolls. No other correspondent comes close to him in their ability to get everyone at the table literally throwing their hands up in the in exasperation at his ridiculous ideas. I'm a big fan.
 
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Faith is a means by which people who unconsciously hate themselves can be brought to a state of self acceptance in the understanding they are sinners but still loved by God, that they have been forgiven but as with everything else the cunning who love the ego and thus worship satin, turned faith into a religion of profit y convincing people to believe anything. Once people of blind belief in a religion are convinced that religion is political they can be convinced to believe anything including that they should have personal choice of worthless healthcare plans over something mandated that gives them something of quality. By this means of indoctrination, the association of ideology with virtue, a nation of marching morons who stab themselves in the back can be created. The faithful are impervious to reason.
I understand you tend to type in a 'stream of consciousness' type of way but paragraphs man, paragraphs...
 
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Moonbeam

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I understand you tend to type in a 'stream of consciousness' type of way but paragraphs man, paragraphs...

Since my reply was a single coherent notion introduced, I think properly in one single paragraph, intended to respond to the OP you made, " That's beyond a a stretch to consider drumpf as a peer to MLK in any aspect in any way. And I hope lord is taken to the mat for proclaiming such an idiotic comparison.may I ask you what your comment was intended to imply.", may I ask you how you would structure my paragraph, or, if not differently, maybe you can identify what you were actually feeling.

In short, since I feel that my single paragraph was grammatically proper and compliant with paragraph rules, I am suspicious that you were actually feeling something else.

A phenomena I confront on a regular basis is that very often when people complain about something their desire is to complain and commiserate rather than learn anything that might ameliorate their complaint.
 

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Wow, and Lord always seemed like one of the more...reasonable Trump supporters out there, despite his doubling down over the last couple of months when faced with the easily predictable and completely contradictory reality of candidate Trump vs POTUS(?) Trump.

I guess this ends his honeymoon.

Oh, wait, I'm sure that we will all be told that we didn't understand what he meant.
 
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Since my reply was a single coherent notion introduced, I think properly in one single paragraph, intended to respond to the OP you made, " That's beyond a a stretch to consider drumpf as a peer to MLK in any aspect in any way. And I hope lord is taken to the mat for proclaiming such an idiotic comparison.may I ask you what your comment was intended to imply.", may I ask you how you would structure my paragraph, or, if not differently, maybe you can identify what you were actually feeling.

In short, since I feel that my single paragraph was grammatically proper and compliant with paragraph rules, I am suspicious that you were actually feeling something else.

A phenomena I confront on a regular basis is that very often when people complain about something their desire is to complain and commiserate rather than learn anything that might ameliorate their complaint.
nope, just paragraphs.
 

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Republicans love MLK nowadays. Carter Page said FBI getting a FISA warrant to monitor his communications with the Russians means he is like MLK too :)
 

Moonbeam

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nope, just paragraphs.
Right, but you ignored this part: may I ask you how you would structure my paragraph, or, if not differently, maybe you can identify what you were actually feeling. You claim it's paragraphs but can't say why mine was wrong. Generally, when one can't support a criticism, it it's because something else is behind the nit-picking.