Think my 4 hour old XFX 5900nu is dead

[thedarkwolf]

Its a version 2.2 and was clocked at 400/700. Coolbits put it up to I think 468/860 but I backed it back down to 430/800 since my computer is too slow to bother really overclocking. I was pissed that it had the slower memory but since my computer is slow anyway I wasn't pissed enough to send it back but it looks like I may have no choice now. It ran fine for a couple hours of benches and gaming but then I left it at the desktop to go watch Tv for about 2 hours and came back to a locked up computer. I rebooted it a few times but never got passed the log in screen and I had artifacts on a couple of the reboots. I held down CTRL like the overclocking utillity said to to boot at stock speeds but it didn't seem to make any difference. Now if I let it sit turned off for awhile I am lucky if I can even get the video card bios to pop up before it goes to black screen.

So the question is what card should I trade this POS for when I send it back to newegg ? Hows the company Albratron? They have then next cheapest 5900nu with 850mhz memory.

 

[thedarkwolf]

Since I am getting hammered for sending a card back that I overclocked on another forum let me go ahead and say this before it starts happening over here .

I ran it at stock speeds for about the first hour and a half of that going through benchmarks and crap just to check it out. Then I did the little overclock and ran it through 3dmark and aquamark without any problems. Then I left it at the desktop in 2d were going by the overclock utillity its suppost to be set back at stock speeds and went to watch tv for 2 hours.

I'd rather not send this thing back and have to deal with the whole RMA thing if somebody has any ideas.

 

[Viper96720]

Yor going to get hammered here also if you plan on returning it. Run any screensaver? Some use hardware 3D rendering.

 

[videoclone]

Have you tried going into the computer in safe mode and then uninstalling the videocard drivers !!!!! then grab the latest ones off guru3D the 53.03 drivers and then give those a try !! if your card still doesnt work and your system still crash's and hase problems then return it .... ive got an Albatron Geforce FX5900nu and ive overclocked the hell out of this card up 2 500Mhz core and 980Mhz Ram and it works fine no problem.

To get into safe mode when your computer is booting press F8 ... more then once if you must Good luck

 

[thedarkwolf]

no screen savers. Just have it turn the screen off after 20mins.

Several people are having problems with this version of the card.

When I get off work I'll pull it out and slap it back in. Hopefully the power cable just got pulled out or something. Things were pretty tight in there.

Hell I read a review of a creative branded one of these without ramsinks that ran at 800mhz memory stable. This one has pretty good sized ramsinks so I really don't think my little overclocking is what hurt it.

If I can get it to do anything when I play with it after setting turned off overnight Ill try that videoclone.

 

[nRollo]

So the question is what card should I trade this POS for when I send it back to newegg

That's a tough question Darkwolf. You're already stealing from XFX and newegg, the question is who do you most want to steal from next?

One approach you could take is that a big successful company like Asus can probably handle your stealing from them better than a small company like XFX, so it might be somewhat "more humane" to steal from them next.

Another approach you could take is the "just plain mean" approach. BFG was formed from the once bankrupt Visiontek, so you could steal from them next and try to bankrupt them again, and put some people out of work.

You could steal from Leadtek next, because people say they have higher quality AGP and RF filters, so you'll be destroying higher quality hardware and stealing from people who take pride in putting out a higher quality product.

So you see, it's a hard question with a lot of variables. Don't worry about it though, because for every thief like you who OCs equipment, breaks it and steals another (and another, and another, and another) there are honest men like me who work for a living and would rather go without a computer than break one on purpose and then steal another. There's enough guys like me around to keep the companies in business a long time, ensuring you'll have plenty of choices to steal from! Happy thieving!

 

[MichaelZ]

thats nice, have a cookie.

 

[thedarkwolf]

Thanks for the helpfull post Rollo

Now I am thinking its my power supply that is causing the problems. Anybody have problems with the higher power video cards and 300w antecs? I was able to get it to come up a couple times without any artifacts after pulling the plugs on other things. After pulling everything but the floppy and the memtest boot disk that was in it it booted most of the way up before hangine. I slapped everything back together with the 7200 and forgot the disk in the drive and it lock up at the same spot so looks like my disk was bad.

I'll run it over the a friends house later and see if it likes his power supply any better.

The POS comment was because I ordered a 2.2ns memory card and got a 2.8ns memory card.

 

[SniperWulf]

Originally posted by: Rollo

So the question is what card should I trade this POS for when I send it back to newegg

That's a tough question Darkwolf. You're already stealing from XFX and newegg, the question is who do you most want to steal from next?

One approach you could take is that a big successful company like Asus can probably handle your stealing from them better than a small company like XFX, so it might be somewhat "more humane" to steal from them next.

Another approach you could take is the "just plain mean" approach. BFG was formed from the once bankrupt Visiontek, so you could steal from them next and try to bankrupt them again, and put some people out of work.

You could steal from Leadtek next, because people say they have higher quality AGP and RF filters, so you'll be destroying higher quality hardware and stealing from people who take pride in putting out a higher quality product.

So you see, it's a hard question with a lot of variables. Don't worry about it though, because for every thief like you who OCs equipment, breaks it and steals another (and another, and another, and another) there are honest men like me who work for a living and would rather go without a computer than break one on purpose and then steal another. There's enough guys like me around to keep the companies in business a long time, ensuring you'll have plenty of choices to steal from! Happy thieving!

Yeah its always easier to take the holier than thou approach

I would RMA it to newegg and just get a replacement. Hell they gonna resell it anyways.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: SniperWulf

Originally posted by: Rollo

So the question is what card should I trade this POS for when I send it back to newegg

That's a tough question Darkwolf. You're already stealing from XFX and newegg, the question is who do you most want to steal from next?

One approach you could take is that a big successful company like Asus can probably handle your stealing from them better than a small company like XFX, so it might be somewhat "more humane" to steal from them next.

Another approach you could take is the "just plain mean" approach. BFG was formed from the once bankrupt Visiontek, so you could steal from them next and try to bankrupt them again, and put some people out of work.

You could steal from Leadtek next, because people say they have higher quality AGP and RF filters, so you'll be destroying higher quality hardware and stealing from people who take pride in putting out a higher quality product.

So you see, it's a hard question with a lot of variables. Don't worry about it though, because for every thief like you who OCs equipment, breaks it and steals another (and another, and another, and another) there are honest men like me who work for a living and would rather go without a computer than break one on purpose and then steal another. There's enough guys like me around to keep the companies in business a long time, ensuring you'll have plenty of choices to steal from! Happy thieving!

Yeah its always easier to take the holier than thou approach

I would RMA it to newegg and just get a replacement. Hell they gonna resell it anyways.

i would too.. agree....

 

[NYHoustonman]

Yea, seriously Rollo... He said himself that at the time it was at the 2D desktop, therefore at stock speeds, and everything was fine.

Side note, this sounds to me ALOT like a PSU problem. Definetly look into that.

 

[Schadenfroh]

eh, people do it all the time, one more doing it wont hurt, the companies deserve it. usually the 5900s in the 230 rang have 2.2ns ram, that is what you want, but make sure it has 2.2ns before you buy it, cause you may get ripped off. personally, i think the companies are stealing from us. i mean, what do you think the 5950/9800xt or any other video card that cost 500 dollors. i mean, you used to be able to turn a card that ati sells for 150, which they make a profit on and use a simple software patch to turn it into a card that sells for 400. i mean, its highway robbery at the prices they charge.

 

[modedepe]

Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
The POS comment was because I ordered a 2.2ns memory card and got a 2.8ns memory card.

I don't recall newegg or xfx ever saying it would have 2.2ns ram.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
eh, people do it all the time, one more doing it wont hurt, the companies deserve it. usually the 5900s in the 230 rang have 2.2ns ram, that is what you want, but make sure it has 2.2ns before you buy it, cause you may get ripped off. personally, i think the companies are stealing from us. i mean, what do you think the 5950/9800xt or any other video card that cost 500 dollors. i mean, you used to be able to turn a card that ati sells for 150, which they make a profit on and use a simple software patch to turn it into a card that sells for 400. i mean, its highway robbery at the prices they charge.

Nice justification. Did you ever consider that they have to charge higher prices because of customers like this?

When did it become immoral to make a profit? I'm not quite sure I understand.

 

[Sust]

gak!
It's always painful to hear how others are having a bad experience with the same card you jsut bought from the same vendor.
Mine should be in the local fedex facility right now so we'll see how things turn out tonight with this thing.
Note to self: Do not overclock

Please write back with an update on any other measures you've taken to resurrect the card.

 

[nRollo]

Nice justification. Did you ever consider that they have to charge higher prices because of customers like this?

When did it become immoral to make a profit? I'm not quite sure I understand.

It's good some of you understand what "honor" is, kudos.

 

[nRollo]

Yeah its always easier to take the holier than thou approach

I live this way. I get to look in the mirror and my wife and son's eye and not be ashamed that they're looking at a filthy thief.
E.G. Two Christmas's ago I was shopping for sporting goods for another hobby with my wife and son, bought $500 worth of stuff, the cashier rang it up at $90.. I told him to re-do it, that it was wrong. He refused, said it was right. I told him I wasn't going to pay him $90 for $500 worth of stuff, and that he needed to do it again. He did, and thanked me.
I could care less about his thanks, I couldn't have looked my wife and son in the eye if I had cheated the store.

So say what you want, I say if he wouldn't have OCd the card, it would have been fine. I used to work at a box shop, don't think I ever saw a defective video card. (they test them you know?)

If he had never OCd it, I'd have no problem with the return. If you're going to run parts out of spec, I think the damage you may incur is your problem, not the guys who sold it to you or made it.

Hell they gonna resell it anyways.

That's really nice sniperwulf. What if the guy they sold it to was your kid, who had been saving and saw an opportunity to get it a little earlier "open box"? Or you? Do you want this video card? Or do you just not care as long as it's someone else that gets it?

 

[Pete]

(Now you know how I felt about nV and 3DM03, Rollo. )

 

[SniperWulf]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Yeah its always easier to take the holier than thou approach

I live this way. I get to look in the mirror and my wife and son's eye and not be ashamed that they're looking at a filthy thief.
E.G. Two Christmas's ago I was shopping for sporting goods for another hobby with my wife and son, bought $500 worth of stuff, the cashier rang it up at $90.. I told him to re-do it, that it was wrong. He refused, said it was right. I told him I wasn't going to pay him $90 for $500 worth of stuff, and that he needed to do it again. He did, and thanked me.
I could care less about his thanks, I couldn't have looked my wife and son in the eye if I had cheated the store.

So say what you want, I say if he wouldn't have OCd the card, it would have been fine. I used to work at a box shop, don't think I ever saw a defective video card. (they test them you know?)

If he had never OCd it, I'd have no problem with the return. If you're going to run parts out of spec, I think the damage you may incur is your problem, not the guys who sold it to you or made it.

Hell they gonna resell it anyways.

That's really nice sniperwulf. What if the guy they sold it to was your kid, who had been saving and saw an opportunity to get it a little earlier "open box"? Or you? Do you want this video card? Or do you just not care as long as it's someone else that gets it?

Whatever man, If I were him I'd have no problem with returning it and getting another

 

[thedarkwolf]

Originally posted by: modedepe

Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
The POS comment was because I ordered a 2.2ns memory card and got a 2.8ns memory card.

I don't recall newegg or xfx ever saying it would have 2.2ns ram.

They just changed it on both sites earlier this week. I ordered it on Fri when newegg said 400/800 and xfx's site said 2.2ns ram. XFX's site also couldn't make up its mind if it had a 256bit memory bus or a 128bit one.

I still say it was overclocked and not much for 30mins in 3d and if it did die from that it was a flaky card to begin with. There were not artifacts and it was setting in 2d for around 2 hours were it shouldn't of been overclocked when it locked up it. I actually locked up when I plugged my cable modem's network cable back in. I am also having problems with a new laptop not wanting to DHCP on its wired card and was playing with it.

I just woke up and haven't gotten a chance to do anything else with it yet. Still hoping its just my power supply.

 

[thedarkwolf]

ITS WORKING RIGHTNOW

but this is odd. I decided before I bothered to take it over to my friends house to give it one more try. I hooked everything up and it did the samething it did before and just booted to a black screen. This also has a DVI output and a DVI-VGA dohicky so just for the hell of it I hooked the monitor up to that part and its working fine.

What the hell does that mean? Did one of the ramdacs burn out somehow cause I certainly wasn't overclocking that? In 2d coolbits runs the GPU at 300mhz and it was still over clocking the ram in 2d at 800mhz but that doesn't seem to have been the problem since its working fine now with the other output.

 

[thedarkwolf]

Well scratch that. It was working fine till I turned it off to screw everything back down and now both sides a black screening and locking up the computer. Now I am back to thinking its a power supply problem cause it was working fine with no artifacts.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
eh, people do it all the time, one more doing it wont hurt, the companies deserve it. usually the 5900s in the 230 rang have 2.2ns ram, that is what you want, but make sure it has 2.2ns before you buy it, cause you may get ripped off. personally, i think the companies are stealing from us. i mean, what do you think the 5950/9800xt or any other video card that cost 500 dollors. i mean, you used to be able to turn a card that ati sells for 150, which they make a profit on and use a simple software patch to turn it into a card that sells for 400. i mean, its highway robbery at the prices they charge.

Nice justification. Did you ever consider that they have to charge higher prices because of customers like this?

When did it become immoral to make a profit? I'm not quite sure I understand.

I have never return a card that i broke on purpose just to get a better one, nor would i ever. but i can see why someone would, and i do not believe that prices would fall if everyone stoped doing it and i do understand why someone would want to make a profit, but when the prices do not justify the performance, i believe the consumer suffers

 

[nRollo]

Schaden:

and i do not believe that prices would fall if everyone stoped doing it

I assume you work for a living? Where does the money to cover losses come from in your company? It's a moot point anyway, it would be wrong even if the prices went UP if everyone stopped doing it. Thou shalt not steal?

and i do understand why someone would want to make a profit, but when the prices do not justify the performance, i believe the consumer suffers

If you don't think the price justifies the performance, don't buy. If enough others think like you, I guarantee the price will come down. If not, you were either wrong or it doesn't matter that you were right. Supply and demand set the price.

 

[thedarkwolf]

Well the Dells here at work only have 250w power supplys, 3ghz p4 with 1gig ram and multiple drives and a piddly 250w ps nice, so sticking it in one of these really didn't help me figure out if my problem is lack of wattage or fried card. I stuck it in there anyway and I had verticle lines on the screen and when it made it to windows it went black.

Fried card or not enough wattage? Remember it did seem to run fine in mine with a 300w PS earlier today till I rebooted. I didn't run any games or benchmark it though. I forgot to mention this earlier but I did set the ram back to 700mhz when I had it up and running again.

I know somebody with a computer shop so I will go and see if he has a system setup with a 350+w PS already in it that I can stick it in to test. If he doesn't I may just go ahead and buy a 400w and see if that fixes it. I'll need one sooner or later anyway.