KAMAZON
Great, discuss this.
bryer
Double Jeopardy
In Judge Breyer's opinions concerning the Double Jeopardy Clause, he again has applied relevant Supreme Court precedent in a "pragmatic" manner.
For example, in United States v. Larouche Campaign, 866 F.2d 512 (1st Cir. 1989), several months after a fraud trial began, the defendants asked the trial court to excuse five jurors for hardship. The court excused them, leaving ten jurors. 866 F.2 d at 513-14. When the defendants would not stipulate to trial by less than a jury of twelve, the court declared a mistrial. Id. The government then proceeded to bring a new prosecution against the defendants. Id. at 514. The defendants asserted that this prosecution was barred by the Double Jeopardy Clause. Id.
The First Circuit, in an opinion by Judge Breyer, affirmed the lower court's holding that the Double Jeopardy Clause did not bar the second trial. Id. at 518. Under Supreme Court precedent, he noted, the Double Jeopardy Clause does not ordinarily bar retrial when defendants move for a mistrial. Oregon v. Kennedy, 456 U.S. 667 (1982); United States v. Perez, 9 Wheat. 579 (1824). Judge Breyer concluded that, although the defendants had not formally moved for a mistrial, they had requested that the five jurors be excused, which the defendants reasonably knew would result in a mistrial, and therefore, the Double Jeopardy Clause did not
bar retrial. 866 F.2d at 515.
That certainly doesn't fit the scenairo that you presented earlier. Asking for jurors to be dismissed then asking for a mistrial because there aren't enough jurors. That's pretty slick of old Lyndon.
Just because it was presented in court does not mean that it was proven. I'll look at the court case tomorrow, it's late.
I smell something burning but it sure as hell ain't chickehawks.
nite.
Great, discuss this.
bryer
Double Jeopardy
In Judge Breyer's opinions concerning the Double Jeopardy Clause, he again has applied relevant Supreme Court precedent in a "pragmatic" manner.
For example, in United States v. Larouche Campaign, 866 F.2d 512 (1st Cir. 1989), several months after a fraud trial began, the defendants asked the trial court to excuse five jurors for hardship. The court excused them, leaving ten jurors. 866 F.2 d at 513-14. When the defendants would not stipulate to trial by less than a jury of twelve, the court declared a mistrial. Id. The government then proceeded to bring a new prosecution against the defendants. Id. at 514. The defendants asserted that this prosecution was barred by the Double Jeopardy Clause. Id.
The First Circuit, in an opinion by Judge Breyer, affirmed the lower court's holding that the Double Jeopardy Clause did not bar the second trial. Id. at 518. Under Supreme Court precedent, he noted, the Double Jeopardy Clause does not ordinarily bar retrial when defendants move for a mistrial. Oregon v. Kennedy, 456 U.S. 667 (1982); United States v. Perez, 9 Wheat. 579 (1824). Judge Breyer concluded that, although the defendants had not formally moved for a mistrial, they had requested that the five jurors be excused, which the defendants reasonably knew would result in a mistrial, and therefore, the Double Jeopardy Clause did not
bar retrial. 866 F.2d at 515.
That certainly doesn't fit the scenairo that you presented earlier. Asking for jurors to be dismissed then asking for a mistrial because there aren't enough jurors. That's pretty slick of old Lyndon.
Just because it was presented in court does not mean that it was proven. I'll look at the court case tomorrow, it's late.
I smell something burning but it sure as hell ain't chickehawks.
nite.
Ok. I actually read the whole thing. He presents a case as to why LaRouche's case should be looked at again. Frankly I surprised that Clinton didn't pardon him along with everyone else. What ever happened when he called for an appointment? That's what he says he'll do at the end of the letter.
I'm not seeing the relevance to my random article. Not at all. It's obvious that you cannot read my article because the LARouche in 2004 proxy server has blocked all sites that are either not LaRouche based, or are not AT. Leading me to suspect that Anand is a LR supporter! Aha! We have a link here that we must follow.
Anyways. I did read your letter. Now ask your sysadmin to unlock the page I linked and read mine.
Seriously. just read it. I'm making an effort here. Out of curiosity, what is your religious persuasion? I'm not trying to link any religion with you or LaRouche per say, just wondering about your background. -Tal
So what did the judge mean in the first case when he stated "The prosecution has commited fraudulant misconduct upon the court" right after the prosecutions own opening statements ? I will research your material when I get back, I have 2 palestanian friends who wish to help us get the chickenhawks that I'm giogn to go brief right now. Night and adeou till tommorow.
So what did the judge mean in the first case when he stated "The prosecution has commited fraudulant misconduct upon the court" right after the prosecutions own opening statements ? I will research your material when I get back, I have 2 palestanian friends who wish to help us get the chickenhawks that I'm giogn to go brief right now. Night and adeou till tommorow.
dude, explain this. After hearing about all your exploits and disruptions, and knowing that LaRouche used the term Chicken Hawks against Cheny and his folks, and then you go "Brief" people who wanna "get the chickenhawks". You're freaking me out. Don't do anything stupid. Trust no one!
<Doc from "Back to the Future">Great Scott!</Doc from "Back to the Future">
Aren't you are the same person who continuously babbles and lectures about conspiracies?!?!?
Just to clarify again, we mean impeaching or forcing a resignation due to the corruption. By having cheney have to resign, the other gaggle of chickenhawks will fall too, and the democratic party will be free of the DLC Joe Lieberman/Steinhardt organized crime/moonie apparatus. Now THAT'S nuts!
shiner
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And that's why you said you had Palestinian friends.....riiiight. Nice little try at a scare tactic my Cuckoo for Coca Puffs friend.
You're whole "it was proven in court" rant has me laughing pretty good this morning. It was proven in court but he didn't win the case. Um hmmmm......riiiight. I guess I can see that in a way....this is the same court system that let O.J. go free. Who knew that LaRouche and Orenthal had something in common? I mean besides their insanity and ability to blame everyone but themselves for anything that goes wrong.
shiner
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Jeez....LaRouche's wife is just as nutty as he is.
Key Aspects of Contemporary Satanism
Here's a couple of blurbs from the article...
"You will see, that it is a combination of Bolshevists, Communists, and liberal bankers in the West, and--which to some of you may come as a surprise,for others not--that actually Satanism as a political factor in world politics is part of the problem we are dealing with."
"We found individuals like the Satanist Robert McNamara, who has a long list of crimes. He was responsible in Vietnam for the body-count policy. He's a lunatic, quite literally, because he goes out when there is a full Moon, to bathe in the moonbeams. "
"One can say that rock music is the first level of initiation [many hard-rock "musicians" report feeling as if something else is controlling them as they make their noise] , and that then drugs, pornography, and general disruption of any moral standard are the next steps."
Key Aspects of Contemporary Satanism
Here's a couple of blurbs from the article...
"You will see, that it is a combination of Bolshevists, Communists, and liberal bankers in the West, and--which to some of you may come as a surprise,for others not--that actually Satanism as a political factor in world politics is part of the problem we are dealing with."
"We found individuals like the Satanist Robert McNamara, who has a long list of crimes. He was responsible in Vietnam for the body-count policy. He's a lunatic, quite literally, because he goes out when there is a full Moon, to bathe in the moonbeams. "
"One can say that rock music is the first level of initiation [many hard-rock "musicians" report feeling as if something else is controlling them as they make their noise] , and that then drugs, pornography, and general disruption of any moral standard are the next steps."
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Actually the movie "Beautiful mind" was about a free trade liberal, adam smither warshipper. LaRouches economics are based on Liebniz, which is the opposite of British backed imperialism.
The point of the case wasn't to prove that the media slandered larouche, it was part of his defence that the government put him in a position to prosecute him based on fraud. It was proven, and the case was finished as a 'mistrial due to government corruption'. The attorney general letter to Janet Reno also backs this, and gives you the court case #. If you want to dispute it, go get teh documents and you'll see there is nothing to dispute. If you're going to call every single one of my links, even if it is the testimony of the attorney general as a 'nazi terrorist supporter cult leader', then I have no reason to read your anonymous websites. Get the official document if you're going to refute every thing I post, as I don't have to take your crap either. You want to discuss this further, you have the court #, get it. If you're not that serious about it, then I really don't care to discuss it with you. It's a waste of my time while Dirty Dick runs amock with his chickenhawks.
Scare tactic?? Either you are a rascist who thinks all Palestanians are threatning (do you?), or you're crazy. Oooohhh, he said Palestanian friend! BOOGA BOOGA~ beloved patriot boogie men must be shot, they are evil, right?
shiner
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The way you said it implied that you were going to have them "get" the chickenhawks. How else is that supposed to be taken. If you didn't mean it the way it sounded then why didn't you say you were going to get 2 friends to help you?
More later....have a meeting to get ready for..
When we go to "get" someone, like a chickenhawk, we do it by exposing their fraud and building a movement to demand a new alternative than what they are offering. They are now going to come to the meeting tonight and will pass out litterature demanding Cheneys resignation. That is how we 'get' our chickenhawks.
shiner
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Yeah, yeah, yeah....nice backpeddle you've got there. By the way....since my meeting was delayed until 2pm I read Clark's letter to Janet Reno again. Just as I thought there is no mention of the actual case number in there are all. There's mention of a related case, but not the case against LaRouche. Once again you are full of sh1t.
shinerburke: KAMAZON has mysteriously stopped responding to my inquiries. I think he "killfiled" me.
Only a matter of time now..........
Only a matter of time now..........
LunarRay
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Originally posted by: burnedout
shinerburke: KAMAZON has mysteriously stopped responding to my inquiries. I think he "killfiled" me.
Only a matter of time now..........
Even the dumbest of cobras learns the mongoose tolerate no intrusion to their lair of confused play.. Stealthy approach may yield a meal or two but not a frontal assualt... I'd say.
shiner
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Don't worry....he's just checking in with his puppet master to find out what he should rant next.Originally posted by: burnedout
shinerburke: KAMAZON has mysteriously stopped responding to my inquiries. I think he "killfiled" me.
Only a matter of time now..........
yea yea, blah blah blah. It's quite pointless ot debate wiht you people if you're not going to help bring out the chickenhawks. What you think personaly of LaRouche really doesn't matter as none of you have even read a whole article by LaRouche in your life, yet are all 'self proclaimed larouche experts'. It really wont matter in 2004 when he's your new president, so please, rant away. bring your friends to this forum and have them tell me how LaRouche will never get elected too, so more of you will look foolish.
If you can't find the case #s, then I will be happy to get the case #s for all of the cases if you would like.
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