Think 9700 Pro Can Handle 200 Watt PS?

[AdmiralTiger]

I'm just asking this because a friend of mine would like to install a 9700 Pro on a free AGP slot in his HP 754n system (I already looked at the specs, 845G Chipset, 1 4x AGP slot, 3 (2 free) PCI slots... blah blah - but it has a 200 Watt Power supply of all things, and I'm wondering if the power supply itself can handle the video card? Let me know what you think so I can help out my friend better. Thanks.

 

[MrMaster]

what cpu is in it?

 

[AdmiralTiger]

Intel Pentium 4 2.53 GHz 533 Mhz FSB (uses 512 MB PC2100 RAM though)

 

[afzan]

The power supply is probably rated for 200w RMS, like the Dell power supplies.. Although I have no idea on the power requirements for the 9700 pro

 

[MangoTBG]

I could have sworn that you need either a 300 watt or 330watt PSU. You may want to check that as I no longer own one!

 

[bgovoni]

I have a 9700 pro, I had it hooked up to a 250w ps with 2 drives 2 cd-roms and it did not work, I'd recommend a 300.

 

[KDOG]

It has more to do with the QUALITY of the power supply. 9700PROs work fine in those Shuttle XPCs' which have a 200W PS.

 

[jackschmittusa]

I doubt that the HP psu is even remotely as good as the one in the Shuttle as the latter is a mod of a rackmount design and the former is the deal of the day for a carload.

 

[BFG10K]

No way. Even ATi themselves recommend a quality 300W power supply as a minimum. Sometimes it's hard enough to get the 9700 Pro to work with el-cheapo power supplies that even have a very high power output, much less trying to get it work below minimum spec.

 

[EeyoreX]

Actually I often find that Dell/HP/Gateway PSUs to be quite reliable, so it may in fact work. I know several people who have done serious upgrading to low wattage PSUs in Dells and HPs and have had no trouble at all running with several drives (HDD and opticals) high end CPUs and video cards. I'd say give it a try. The worst that is likely to happen is that the PC will not boot (not enough power) or you might get some instability, in either case a new PSU would be in order.

\Dan

 

[dartworth]

Originally posted by: KDOG
It has more to do with the QUALITY of the power supply. 9700PROs work fine in those Shuttle XPCs' which have a 200W PS.

 

[Intelman07]

I highly doubt it will.

 

[Corporate Thug]

not worth the risk...

 

[TROGDORdBURNINATOR]

It has more to do with the QUALITY of the power supply. 9700PROs work fine in those Shuttle XPCs' which have a 200W PS.

Bingo!

No way. Even ATi themselves recommend a quality 300W power supply as a minimum.

Wrongo! This is a catchall recommendation because there are so many power supplies out there which get their wattage ratings from the 3.3v and 5v but not the 3.3+5v combined and thus cheat on the rating. Some of them hardly live up to half of their rating. A 200Watter will be fine if it is quality.

 

[BarneyFife]

Take a look at my rigs, specifically the one I just added. All that stuff is running on a 200w ps just fine.

 

[ZippyDan]

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=27&threadid=1038162&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=

 

[XBoxLPU]

I wouldn't recommend it

 

[onelin]

I've seen it done in micro-ATX systems just fine w/ 200W. 9700 pro + 2.53GHz P4. Probably depends somewhat on your motherboard, I know my ATX mobo is a real hog and I have a 430W antec for just an athlonxp 1900+ and gf4 ti4400. ...Yet micro atx board P4 2.53GHz + my gf4 ti4400 right now is on 200w, solid.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: shady06
not worth the risk...

 

[snidy1]

I'd recomend at least 300 watt, preferably 350 or 400. extra is good, not enough will screw things up.

 

[AdmiralTiger]

Ok... .thanks for your input, guys - most of you basically answered what I knew already - that it was a risk to be putting in a 9700 Pro on a very low wattage rating of the power supply, and we don't know how good of a quality the PS is and of course it's a micro PS, would be difficult to replace it with a regular PS unless my friend gets a new barebone computer case and a nice quality 350W power supply - and he'd be better off afterwards.

I've already suggested him to get the 9500 Pro... but since it's similar to the 9700 Pro but a lot cheaper - we'll see what happens after he installs it.

Thanks.

 

[DannyBoy]

Originally posted by: AdmiralTiger
Ok... .thanks for your input, guys - most of you basically answered what I knew already - that it was a risk to be putting in a 9700 Pro on a very low wattage rating of the power supply, and we don't know how good of a quality the PS is and of course it's a micro PS, would be difficult to replace it with a regular PS unless my friend gets a new barebone computer case and a nice quality 350W power supply - and he'd be better off afterwards.

I've already suggested him to get the 9500 Pro... but since it's similar to the 9700 Pro but a lot cheaper - we'll see what happens after he installs it.

Thanks.

Just make sure hes careful. Try and figure out how much power you are already using, and what the specifications or rather "Requirements" are for say a 9500. DOnt want anything to happen to that nice new Graphics card would you? Or even the entire machine

 

[Blastman]

If power consumption is a concern the new 9600?s would be a much better choice than the 9500?s. The 9600pro?s are manufactured on the new 0.13 micron process and probably consume quite a bit less power than a 9500pro (0.15 micron and a lot larger die size/transistor count). The 9600pro?s don?t even have the extra auxiliary power connector and run off of just the AGP slot.