Things to be proud about for being American..?

DanTMWTMP

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It appears that we're not proud to be American anymore...?
The country appears to be divided in half on issues, and people are becoming more and more vocal. It seems that the Internet brought out all the regional issues of this country and people are trying to force it down to other regions...

Anyways, I get the general feeling that Americans hate other Americans and we're losing a sort of national identity and pride. In my travels around the world, I've come to realize that there are so many things we can be proud of. I see American influence EVERYWHERE.

Ok, so we lost our industrial strength and technological leadership and our Dollar is weakenning...but there's no denying that we had such an influence in everything.

I believe the US was the one who promoted the globalization of industry and markets. I see US culture everywhere. Despite the idea that people may hate us everywhere, everyone wants to follow our culture..our fashion..our trends.

English is now the unofficial standard language of global business. I sincerely believe that the US is responsible for this. With learning the language comes learning our culture. I'm Korean by blood, and I feel somewhat proud of my own people whenever I see my own maternal culture being displayed to others. We have to realize that we do in fact have a culture that is very different from others. Compared to other nations, we have different ideas on how we progress through life...that in itself is "culture." And we hose it everywhere to in our ads, etc...

We've always been a nation of hardworking immigrants, and historically liberal compared to other nations with thousands of years of history. We're one of the youngest nations in the world, yet is the most important/profound nation on this planet. We all had ancestors or even immediate family who are/were immigrants. we all are common in that sense.

Side note: (As a nation of immigrants, isn't it only natural to help our own mother nations and trade with them?)

Anyways...

Here's a list of things to be proud of:

internets

globalization of our ideals, ideas, etc..it's really nothing to be ashamed of. We should be
proud that we have people that have the initiative to spread US companies around the world.

hollywood (lol okok..a ton of our movies suck, and I know transformers isn't the best of movies, but man, it felt good seeing a ton of locals in other nations enjoy how we can apply our creativity)

arts and entertainment

the ability to accept everything and enjoy other cultures as they are (controversial claim on my part...but you get the idea)

NFL, NBA, MLB, etc...Sports that had its origins here is now fast becoming a global phenomenon. People of other nations strive HARD to beat us at any and every sport. We should be appreciative of them for benchmarking people from the US for their physical and talent goals. They celebrate like crazy if they beat any our teams. We should applaud their work ethic.

Olympics. Despite being the fattest nation, we have people who are physically among the top in the world (and not harvested from the gov't at an early age just for the sole purpose of the gold medal).

Automobile culture

blahblahblah etc etc...

Why do we take things we seriously and take it for granted; and criticize for its very existence? We should all take a step back, look at what's going on, and really appreciate what our own US society has provided.

oh..and travel more often if possible. I've never been so appreciative of what being a US citizen is like until I started to go to places around the globe.

 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
and historically liberal compared to other nations with thousands of years of history

Perhaps intellectually and economically, but socially we're one of the most conservative.
 

OrganizedChaos

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automotive culture? i'm not so sure urban sprawl and our economy being dependent on fuel imports is something to be proud of.

i would think the spread of the english language has more to do with the british empire than the US.

internet? some googling reveals that were falling behind more every year in broadband penetration.

I think our military is what we should be most proud of. we're probably the last country capable of projecting power, anywhere, anytime.
 

TheNinja

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I?m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass.
Gonna kick some ass in the USA.
Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle.
I?m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck.
I?m gonna rule this world.
I?m gonna kick some ass.
I?m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass.
Rock, flag, and eagle!
 

JS80

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World Police = World Peace

Without the US @ A I think there would have been 2 more world wars and probably countless micro-wars around the world. Not to mention perpetual global recession, poverty, communism if not socialism.
 

Whisper

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: George P Burdell
Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
English is now the unofficial standard language of global business. I sincerely believe that the US is responsible for this.

Sorry to rain on your parade:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire

America's empire continued that trend, you could say both nations were responsible for it

I'd probably agree with that statement. I might be partially incorrect, but I'd agree. Had the United States remained colonies of the British Empire, I'm not so sure English would've become so popular.
 

Throckmorton

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We should be proud of our constitution. As far as I know we were the first to solidify Enlightenment and Classical ideals. We have inspired many other states do do the same.

About globalization... You have to remember that we supported dictators in a lot of countries, and even overthrew democratically elected leaders, because doing so served the interests of US based global corporations. Supporting totalitarianism is NEVER something to be proud of.


Originally posted by: George P Burdell
Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
English is now the unofficial standard language of global business. I sincerely believe that the US is responsible for this.

Sorry to rain on your parade:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire

English is a lingua franca because of America.

 

DanTMWTMP

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Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
automotive culture? i'm not so sure urban sprawl and our economy being dependent on fuel imports is something to be proud of.

i would think the spread of the english language has more to do with the british empire than the US.

internet? some googling reveals that were falling behind more every year in broadband penetration.

I think our military is what we should be most proud of. we're probably the last country capable of projecting power, anywhere, anytime.

of course there are negative aspects of those, but it's more of the cultural/lifestyle/engineering aspect, regardless of social efficiency, that I like (I lurk TCL and the Garage forum more than I do OT now).

In terms of internet, I meant that the US had planted the seeds of it and American companies took charge to make it a global thing. Internet started as a defense project which lead to a research project amongst select US universities. I really don't see www.blah.co.us sites... Majority of .com sites are in the US. A vast majority of the internets is hosted in the US.

Sure we're falling behind, but that's because of our dynamic geography and old infrastructure. You can't have the same network like other nations have due to geography and the perceived notion that it's "cheaper" to maintain our sprawled-out older infrastructure than to lay down an entire new one every 5 years. We really can't blame ourselves for having a network infrastructure before everyone else did...now everyone else has the newer stuff.

Well, my real point is that we should be more positive on our outlook and not be so negative on our own culture. Let's not try to be universal cynics. Accept everything, and strive to be better instead of sitting around and be cynical all day. Being proud of our origins is a start; and in order to keep that standard that we've set for our origins, we take what we have and make it better.

Like for automobiles for instance... Sure we can have a robust public transportation system for our sprawling cities, but I'd really love to own a car to take a long road trip, or just a trip to the winding backroads. Our geography allows for it, and our geography and culture is what spawned it. I love our automobile culture, but in order to preserve it, we must make strides to have alternative means to make the cars run. We should have the brains and motivation to keep our lifestyle AND stay green.

Maybe 50 years from now we'll have car enthusiasts that tweak every bit of performance out of a hybrid or electric vehicle... hell, RC people do that these days. Our lifestyle and bottom lines won't change. How we get to that bottom line may change via technology.


It doesn't matter where the energy comes, I just want to drive w/ the top down down La Jolla Shores drive, or up the 101, or down highway 1, or toss the keys to the valet while you're w/ your trophy wife.....
:)

Just don't take our culture away...because I'm glad I am a part of it, and enjoy it very much. The Automobile is a large part of what makes us Americans....(but also, I want to reaffirm my wish that we really should have a very robust public rail system in our major population centers....).
 

maddogchen

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:music:
And I?m proud to be an American where at least I know I?m free.
And I won?t forget the men who died, who gave that right to me.
And I?d gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today.
?Cause there ain?t no doubt I love this land God bless the U.S.A.
:music:
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
We should be proud of our constitution. As far as I know we were the first to solidify Enlightenment and Classical ideals. We have inspired many other states do do the same.

About globalization... You have to remember that we supported dictators in a lot of countries, and even overthrew democratically elected leaders, because doing so served the interests of US based global corporations. Supporting totalitarianism is NEVER something to be proud of.


Originally posted by: George P Burdell
Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
English is now the unofficial standard language of global business. I sincerely believe that the US is responsible for this.

Sorry to rain on your parade:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire

English is a lingua franca because of America.

You are so short sighted. Dictators are often democratically elected. Case in point: Iran and Venezuela. Heck, terrorists are even elected democratically (palestinian arabs).

We live in a Republic, not a democracy. Democracy does not work. It always leads to 51% (majority) of the people voting to steal from the 49% minority, which often results in the majority voting for a dictator to achieve their goals.
 

Ricemarine

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Originally posted by: JS80
We live in a Republic, not a democracy. Democracy does not work. It always leads to 51% (majority) of the people voting to steal from the 49% minority, which often results in the majority voting for a dictator to achieve their goals.

We live in a "representative democracy."
 

feralkid

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