Things that you DON'T miss from "the good ol' days".

Demon-Xanth

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I was working on a system and I got to thinking about how working on computers have changed. And realized that there are a lot of things that the average user has no clue about that we don't have to deal with these days. And that being a really good thing.

My list:
IRQs, addresses, and resource conflicts. Even in the PNP days this was a pain in the rear.

Master/slave jumpers on HDs. A minor thing that won't be missed at all.

Five pages of jumper settings. Motherboards automatically know what multiplier to apply, and what voltage. If you want to override it, you have a whole list of voltages in itty bitty increments and can change the voltage on damned near everything. Today "the jumper" just clears CMOS. And that's pretty much it.

Dialup modems. Okay, this one's not dead, but out of mainstream. Getting the modem/com port/DNS settings all setup and working was the hardest part of getting on the internet. Plugging in a USB or ethernet cable is so much easier. Just clicking on a thing and telling it to connect to the wireless even forgoes that step.

While talking about networking, NICs. Pretty much all MBs have them on board and they're good eliminating the need for them in almost all cases.

Piss-poor onboard audio. Yes, dedicated sound cards are still blowing onboard audio out of the water. But these days onboard audio is actually decent and in many cases pretty good.

SCSI for reliable burning and ripping. Yes, I blew hundreds of bucks on SCSI cards and drives, dealt with termination and addresses. All that sort of thing. I ended up giving it all away because my $30 SATA drive basically kicked it's ass in every conceivable way. SCSI still has it's place, but home PCs isn't it anymore.

What are your things that you won't shed a tear for?
 

lsv

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You pretty much summed it up, I have to add USB issues when first releases; having to install drivers before plugging in the device.

Oh and I really don't miss floppy drives.
 

konakona

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editing autoexec.bat and config.sys on pooly managed systems?
there are tons more when you come down to think about it but oh well :p
 

alyarb

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I loved how crashes were so commonplace on win9x that double tapping delete with ctrl+alt was an instant reboot. I wish we had something similar for NT but really if a program crashes nowadays the rest of the system can keep running. I just hated how slow everything was in general. I hated having a chipset with NO features and a discrete card for LAN, audio, video, firewire and so forth. I still can't believe what a tiny little choad the Thermalright SK-6 is. Yet it was the champ for years. Whose idea was it to have 60mm fans on CPUs anyway? Why did the introduction of heat towers take so long? I realize it was prescott and higher-power chips that prompted it, but these thermodynamic principles are well understood and heatpipes have had other applications for decades.
 

konakona

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dunno, I didn't have that many crashes all through out, maybe I was lucky. Did spend a good bit of time keeping it well tweaked up though.

ditto on tiny heatsink, I was gonna say that too. the first heatsink that looked like the real deal was alpha back in coppermine days.
 

alyarb

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right, alpha was first to 80 mm, but even THAT was a $60+ heatsink. surely the industrial techniques to mass-produce inexpensive xigmatek and tuniq-style coolers were around 15 years ago.
 

konakona

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oh yeah, please add the lack of heat protection / auto-shutoff feature.

some people actually tried to use this as an argument to buy worse performing intels over amd.
this is mostly moot, but shit does happen. one of my friends managed to burn his slot A athlon classic when the ziptied HP orb hs came off while moving :(

I had a similar experience with my s754 palermo, but luckily this time the cpu shut it self off before burning itself to worthless piece of silicon.
 

StrangerGuy

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1. 7000 rpm CPU fans.

Yes! I like the whine of an industrial compressor just right next to me!

2. CPUs without IHS

There are prolly a billion dead AMD CPUs from crushed cores by incorrect heatsink installation which leads too...

3. Clip-on AMD HSFs

Oops, did your screwdriver slipped? A $200 of a dead motherboard. Forgot to orientate the HSF the correct way? Fried CPU. Clips exerting too much force which breaks the CPU socket notch? Suck it up. Applied too much force on the CPU? Cracked CPU.

4. Blown caps

Self-explanatory.

5. Windows 95/98/ME

Doesn't matter how stable your hardware is, one program crashing is as good as restarting the PC.

6. RDRAM

Insanely expensive, hot, power hungry and slow for anything that isn't a Pentium 4. Epic fail for Pentium 3 with i820 Caminogate. Practically handed AMD the market until 2002.
 
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Chapbass

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x-wing(or any other reasonable game): 30 floppy discs.


IPX Networking.
 

AlgaeEater

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Almost out of the loop but not quite yet; CD-ROM Drives

Remember when cd-burners started hitting the mainstream? Everyone was so happy and excited that they now could burn stuff to CD, especially exchanging "large" amounts of data.

Nothing like burning something at an amazing 2x only to find out the media you were using failed on you. Or better yet, go through 10 cd's in an afternoon thinking all is well only to find out the computer you plan to use the CD's on couldn't read anything past 1x.

Remember erasing CD-RW's? After the 10th time you just started using the "quick erase" function, only to coaster your disc 3 re-writes later. You were the luckiest man alive too if you burned something onto a CD-RW and it was readable by someone else's CD-ROM drive. I remember only other write capable drives were able to read the data off a CD-RW; otherwise staying the constant "spin-up and spin down" cycle of death.

Not good times :p
 

Absolution75

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I don't miss windows 95/8/8se/Me, but I'll take it a step further and say I don't miss windows xp :p

Been almost 4 years since I've had it on my machine - I think that's long enough to qualify as the good ol days
 

mmntech

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56k modems. Those things were always temperamental.

SCSI: out of the mainstream now. Always a pain with having to terminate them.

Windows 9x's constant BSODs.
 

Ika

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Having to wait for a computer to shut down, in the W95 days.
Dial-up.
PC Speaker sound for games (nasty!)
 

Tsavo

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Dot matrix printers.

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alyarb

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anyway litestep ran like shit, but disregarding the bugs it still wasn't a pleasure to work with. tried a couple themes, they were all dumb.
 

Fayd

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anyway litestep ran like shit, but disregarding the bugs it still wasn't a pleasure to work with. tried a couple themes, they were all dumb.

you get used to it. personally, i find the customizability WAY more useful than the windows 7 interface.

most themes are pretty dumb out of the box. they're to showcase the capabilities of litestep. you're supposed to then take a theme and hack it down to what you actually want.

start menu on right click >>>> anything in windows 7.