Thin crust is same price as normal pan pizza?

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akouocoop

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Papa John's

- L Pan Pizza - $15.99
- L Thin Crust - $15.99

Does that make any sense? The thin crust has like, 1/3 the mass of a regular pizza, yet it costs the same? I'm sure they make enough sales, which is why the price is the way it is, but damn...

Mass =/= cost.

When I was there, granted several years ago in college, food cost was higher on a thin crust than a regular. You saved a little labor (in the store) not having to slap it out, but still cost more overall.
 

chalmers

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Pappa Johns, Dominoes and Pizza Hut i would never consider what they make to be called pizza. It's more like slop on cardboard instead of pizza.

Go to New York City and you'll see what real pizza tastes like.

5th post for the first asshat post in a pizza/chili/beer thread. Good job.

I live about 800 miles from New York City. I'll stop by on my way home from work tomorrow to grab a pie for the family for dinner.
 

FoBoT

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pizza, as anything , is worth what people are willing to pay
retail pricing, in any company larger than a single mom/pop type situation, isn't really directly tied to the cost of the product, as you are suggesting
 

TraumaRN

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I'll that person who says that I usually make my own pizza.

Occasionally order from a great mom and pop shop down the street but the owner gave me tips on making a great pizza so I make my own.

I use two adobe clay pot bottoms in my oven then crank my oven as hot as it'll go(600 F) once the dough is ready form it into my own thin crust with fresh herbs, shallots, and boars head pepperoni cut thick. With fresh shredded provolone and parmesan(good stuff) Takes 6 minutes to be perfectly done.

And yes cheese is definitely the most expensive part.
 

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I'll that person who says that I usually make my own pizza.

Occasionally order from a great mom and pop shop down the street but the owner gave me tips on making a great pizza so I make my own.

I use two adobe clay pot bottoms in my oven then crank my oven as hot as it'll go(600 F) once the dough is ready form it into my own thin crust with fresh herbs, shallots, and boars head pepperoni cut thick. With fresh shredded provolone and parmesan(good stuff) Takes 6 minutes to be perfectly done.

And yes cheese is definitely the most expensive part.

+1

I make my own as well. I like to use aged asiago and sharp provolone cheeses myself. I got a pizza stone and peel as a set for $15 at bed bath beyond a few years ago when they were on sale. The stone is great but I'm thinking of getting a bit larger peel.
 

Howard

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I didn't hit any of the superbig pizza joints (I'm not going to Brooklyn just for pizza), but I went to 2 neighborhood pizzerias. I went with locals, who loved both places (also verified on yelp), but honestly they were complete shit compared to the NY style pizza I can get in LA.

I'll reserve 100% judgement until I can get back around to the superbig pizza joints, but of what I tasted I was not impressed.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/sacco-pizza-new-york

Also visited a wood fired pizza joint that I can't find for the life of me.
gotta go to luzzo's brah
 

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There is plenty of terrible pizza in the city, but if anyone is around the LES and wants to grab a great slice, this place has amazing pizza. I've been hitting it up every time I've been down in the area for work the last few months. Reminds of the best places in Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island. Sauce is unbelievably tasty. Cheese is perfect. Crust is perfect. The Italian owner actually works there, alone mostly, making all of the food himself, just like back in the day. That's probably him behind the counter towards the right.
 

Howard

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There is plenty of terrible pizza in the city, but if anyone is around the LES and wants to grab a great slice, this place has amazing pizza. I've been hitting it up every time I've been down in the area for work the last few months. Reminds of the best places in Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island. Sauce is unbelievably tasty. Cheese is perfect. Crust is perfect. The Italian owner actually works there, alone mostly, making all of the food himself, just like back in the day. That's probably him behind the counter towards the right.
PIZZA

Seems legit.
 

Cyco

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Pappa Johns, Dominoes and Pizza Hut i would never consider what they make to be called pizza. It's more like slop on cardboard instead of pizza.

Go to New York City and you'll see what real pizza tastes like.

Fuck the east coast.
 

Sonikku

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Pappa Johns, Dominoes and Pizza Hut i would never consider what they make to be called pizza. It's more like slop on cardboard instead of pizza.

Go to New York City and you'll see what real pizza tastes like.

But if we did that we would never be able to stand eating pizza again once we got back. :'(
 

QueBert

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NY Pizza's good but people are out of control with the talk about it like it eclipses any other pizza by 100 light years. One of my best friends lives minutes away from Brooklyn and her favorite pizza's Pizza Hut.

I will say on the West Coast Bronx Pizza in SD's pretty damn good, the Pepperoni Whitestone's a pizza I could probably eat 4-5 times a week.
 

AznAnarchy99

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I didn't hit any of the superbig pizza joints (I'm not going to Brooklyn just for pizza), but I went to 2 neighborhood pizzerias. I went with locals, who loved both places (also verified on yelp), but honestly they were complete shit compared to the NY style pizza I can get in LA.

I'll reserve 100% judgement until I can get back around to the superbig pizza joints, but of what I tasted I was not impressed.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/sacco-pizza-new-york

Also visited a wood fired pizza joint that I can't find for the life of me.

I went here when I went to NY

http://www.yelp.com/biz/lombardis-pizza-new-york#query:lombardies

It was by far, THE, best pizza I've ever had.
 

JEDIYoda

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Pappa Johns, Dominoes and Pizza Hut i would never consider what they make to be called pizza. It's more like slop on cardboard instead of pizza.

Go to New York City and you'll see what real pizza tastes like.

I consider the pizza made in New York City slop on cardboard!!!


You want real Pizza go to Pioria, Indiana!!
 

QueBert

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Ergo, NYC pizza is garbage.

I wouldn't go that far, but it is one of the most overrated foods I can think of. A NY'er from Brooklyn will typically tell me some shit like "oh, the only reason people who like shit like Pizza Hut is because they don't have access to real pizza joints like we have in Brooklyn!" I am usually able to silence them by asking "then how do 10 Pizza Huts manage to stay in business in your town?" not 1 has been able to answer why.
 
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zinfamous

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Pappa Johns, Dominoes and Pizza Hut i would never consider what they make to be called pizza. It's more like slop on cardboard instead of pizza.

Go to New York City and you'll see what real pizza tastes like.

as far as American pizza goes, I like NY style the best. but real pizza? lol

go to Italy, where they understand pizza

(hint: it is considered junk/leftover food, and not to be taken seriously)

the pizza wars are silly. I honestly think that the worst, cheapest ideas of pizza (PJ, PH, D, etc) are the best, as they are the closest to real pizza--the notion that "this is not really food that we should be eating."


..and I love pizza..
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zinfamous

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I wouldn't go that far, but it is one of the most overrated foods I can think of. A NY'er from Brooklyn will typically tell me some shit like "oh, the only reason people who like shit like Pizza Hut is because they don't have access to real pizza joints like we have in Brooklyn!" I am usually able to silence them by asking "then how do 10 Pizza Huts manage to stay in business in your town?" not 1 has been able to answer why.

10 Pizza huts in Brooklyn with an annual tourism of _x_

vs

1 Pizza hut in Ackley Iowa, with an annual tourism of _x-100,000_


something like that.


Dude, I once went to a Pizza Hut in fucking Paris. Place was packed.

the KFC around the corner? line around the block. (no fooling)

explain that. your argument lacks perspective and experience.
 

T_Yamamoto

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Our Italian exchange student said newyork pizza sucks....

He said go to Italy and try real pizza
 

rh71

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But that's how they make their money. I mean at the grocery store I could get a 10lb bag of Onions for a few bucks. 10lbs of sausage would be $15-20. I'm glad I hate veggies on my pizza because they fuck customers in the ass with charging the same for them as they do meat.

Numerous times I've swapped out black olives for chicken on "The Works" pizza and the price doesn't change. Can take out onions / peppers for anything else also.

He said go to Italy and try real pizza
my wife said it was bad.

And for those who say "NY style pizza" where they are is better than NY's actual pizza... well I think take-out chinese food is better than authentic chinese food in HK/China. They make it taste better by cheating, and that's fine too. Nothing wrong with a Papa Johns in the middle of Wyoming either.
 
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airdata

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the thin and pan are pre-packaged and probably cost more than a ball of dough that is made into regular crust.

I keep seeing 10.99 and 11.99 ads though... wouldn't buy one for $15.99
 

uclaLabrat

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okay, my actual experience on the subway in NYC (going to Katz no less)

1. Walk to train station
2. Spend an absurd 2.50 for one way subway ticket
3. Get hosed by the turnstile
4. Get turnstile opened by friend, pray I don't get a ticket for jumping the turnstiles
5. Hop on the wrong goddamn train (right line, wrong way)
6. Get off on next station, look around exasperated, pray for help
7. Get (wrong) directions from a local
8. Get (correct) directions from a local
9. Finally arrive at destination, buy goods, and leave
10. Oh shit, not enough time to catch the subway to the train station. Spend 15 minutes hailing a cab on the side of the road. Finally get cab after being passed up by 893475890345 cabs.
11. Arrive at train station 15 minutes before train leaves.

Total transportation costs for 3 guys eating pastrami before leaving NYC- $50 (3x 2.50 + 40 cab)

so in summary, fuck NYC unless you got money.
Quite an accurate assessment. Don't even try going crosstown for less than $15 or under an hour. Pick 1. And people here bitch about LA....LA is a million times easier to navigate...especially if you know what you're doing.
 

KeithP

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Does that make any sense? The thin crust has like, 1/3 the mass of a regular pizza, yet it costs the same? I'm sure they make enough sales, which is why the price is the way it is, but damn...

The cost difference in the crust types is a insignificant portion of the total cost of producing the pizza, the mass difference notwithstanding.

-KeithP
 

96Firebird

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Quite an accurate assessment. Don't even try going crosstown for less than $15 or under an hour. Pick 1. And people here bitch about LA....LA is a million times easier to navigate...especially if you know what you're doing.

I never found the NYC subway system hard to navigate at all. I've only been there 3 times, and they were all 3-day weekends. I was actually surprised how easy it was, except I couldn't quite get the timing of the trains right. I wish I lived in a city with decent mass transit, I wouldn't have to drive everywhere and then pay for parking...