THG review of Pentium dual core...

[Duvie]

http://www.de.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050404/intel_dual_core-10.html


notice how he ran the test on winxp and not the pro version...Wonder why the smithfield D version stays so close to the EE version which has HT...It should have been much better the the non HT cpu in several of test, I believe...

Is this right???

definitely it is just the EE version that has HT...only test that shows this is Sandra...I wonder why HT is no non existence...Doesn't make any claim fgor why someone should buy an uber expensive EE model, huh???

 

[clarkey01]

I think my eyes are playing tricks on me...

 

[Duvie]

Would have been nice if he was smart enough to test a 640 or 540 model so we could see a single core 3.2ghz go up against the dual core and get an idea of the scaling...To much to ask from that half-ass....

I need to reread and see if they offered any temp results....I wonder if you have to run like 4 instance of prime to check stability!!!!

 

[Duvie]

I wonder why ther vcore is blanked out in the cpu_z program when overclocking...It isn' tin the smithfield D version one. I wonder how much vcore was needed to achieve the 4ghz.

Also I cant read german but it didn't appear that he gave any bit of a cooling review with this...

 

[Duvie]

"Pentium 4 is dead, and in its place we get two flavours of dual core processor for the desktop. The king of the heap is Pentium Extreme Edition which has dual cores with Hyper-Threading so one physical processor appears as four virtual processors. This will inevitably be the US $999 part that looks good on paper but doesn?t get bought so Intel came up with the bright idea of a dual core part called Pentium D that doesn?t have Hyper-Threading. It runs on the same 800MHz FSB and has the same cache but it appears as two virtual processors, just like the current Prescott. No doubt Pentium Extreme Edition will move to a 1066MHz FSB, which will allow Intel to enable HT in Pentium D but for now it all looks like a bit of a marketing nightmare."

I read this at another site...pretty much sums up the EE model.....

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Would have been nice if he was smart enough to test a 640 or 540 model so we could see a single core 3.2ghz go up against the dual core and get an idea of the scaling...To much to ask from that half-ass....

I need to reread and see if they offered any temp results....I wonder if you have to run like 4 instance of prime to check stability!!!!

Agreed, what they playing at ?

Anyone else picking up of this part from us two ?

Whats with the V core hidden on the overclocking ?

Last time I visit toms.

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: Duvie
I wonder why ther vcore is blanked out in the cpu_z program when overclocking...It isn' tin the smithfield D version one. I wonder how much vcore was needed to achieve the 4ghz.

Also I cant read german but it didn't appear that he gave any bit of a cooling review with this...

Sorry I should of read all you replys first before I mentioned the V core being blanked out. Poor review or what. , lacks depth and leaves questions unanswered and with poor comparisons, so much for German Efficiency !

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: Duvie
http://www.de.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050404/intel_dual_core-10.html


notice how he ran the test on winxp and not the pro version..

Doesnt PRO allow for more threads to be run ? why has he just used xp home ?

 

[Duvie]

http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?page=2757&head=60

Check this one out...It appears Ht has some effect, but I am quite surprised on the photoshop number...IN the example the dual core did identical in the video encoding to the true dual cpu 3.2ghz xeons....The non HT 840 model took 19 seconds more or close to 22% faster. This is the number si have been seeing for years in TMPgenc but they got it doing an AVI to WMV 9.0 conversion...

This must prove Toms hosed his review like normal....

 

[SonicIce]

i was expecting more of an increase than this. its just like any other new cpu

 

[RichUK]

BAAAAAAHHHHH .... i think that dual cores is going to be an amazing jump for procs ... but looking at what intel has produced i am so dissapointed .. i am just going to stick to AMD single cores for another year atleast....

1 prescott = sh1t

2 prescott (aka the new intel dual core for you who dont know) = Uber sh1t

and at the lower clocks this going to be a very bad buy ...

 

[Duvie]

NO offense but what did you guys expect???

I mean we knew games are not wel;l suited for tis so no shock the performance was going to lag compared to higher speed single cores....Frankly if that is it you will be disappointed by AMD's offering as well...

IN multimedia and rendering it appears to scale similar to a Xeon, though in some of the test it appears the 533fsb xeon can actually beat it which suggest bandwidth and shared cache is holding it back....

 

[RichUK]

Like i said i wont being going dual core until they mature, i mean what can anyone expect? it is the first consumer dual core procs to be released! they are bound to be pointless at start. .. these procs are being released now and in a year or so the games etc will utilize this feature (two cores, i.e. two simultaneous threads)... the unreal 3 engine for one ...

so when i see a real performance hike i will consider, until then single threaded apps desire single threaded procs simple ... and im sure the FX57 will do us proud ...


Rich

 

[Duvie]

"it is the first consumer dual core procs to be released! they are bound to be pointless at start. .. these procs are being released now and in a year or so the games etc will utilize this feature (two cores, i.e. two simultaneous threads)... the unreal 3 engine for one ..."

I resent the fact when gamers make comments like this. To many of us non gamers they are nowhere near pointless.....In the beginning they will be immature but the performance is there and they shopuld be cheaper then going a comparable xeon or opteron route....We all dont game here at AT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ppl who do FH and other Distributed Computing will benefit big whether then run 2 threads or just one thread full time and have that other core run there system as a full speed system without having to hold the Folding on the side while they do other things....

Pp,l who do video encoding this is real right now, not to mention the multtasking ability n that aspect.

Ppl who do workstation CAD will also benefit huge....

Gamers not so much, and i guess for that it will get a cold response around these parts...