"They need to be of European ethnic heritage, be Christian or Christian-friendly agnostics, speak English, and be..."

bdude

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http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/007674.html

Your correspondant "A reader" noted: "East Asians have the rare distinction of making America safer by being here, in regards to run of the mill violent crime. According to Jared Taylor's Color of Crime report, Asians commit violent crime at a rate of half to three quarters of the white rate."

Logically, if we are going to judge whether immigrants are a benefit to the country or not based on things like average crime rates, illiteracy, and so on, we should then want to see the white population replaced by Asian immigrants, since then the geographic entity named "America" will have a lower crime rate.

This illustrates the fallacy of making arguments about immigration based on crime rates and so on. The bottom line is that my people--my extended family--need a place to live on this earth just for ourselves. It doesn't matter where we fall on the crime or competency scale of all of the peoples on earth. Our existence as a people is what matters. That is the purpose of our country. That is the purpose of our society and culture--they are tools for furthering the well-being of our people. Those who are not our people do not belong here, period, regardless of whether they commit more or less crime.

The only people who should be allowed to live, work, and raise families in our people's land are our people, and those select foreigners who are capable of, and committed to, completely assimilating into our people. They should literally be indistinguishable from any of us. And for that to happen they need to be of European ethnic heritage, be Christian or Christian-friendly agnostics, speak English, and be capitalists and value free markets and individual liberty (including free speech, free association, and gun rights). These are my (our) people. No one else has any business living and working in our people's country (tourists and businessmen excepted).

Just picked up this link from another thread. I try to act surprised at this sort of sentiment because nowadays it isn't as in-your-face as it was 10,20,100 years ago, but I cannot help but feel...that a great deal of people hide behind a facade of polite smiles, but inwardly see another person as "other", no matter how "integrated" they may be.

 

Connoisseur

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It's an extreme right wing article... what do you expect?

If you want me to present you an argument from the other side of the spectrum, here goes: "The reason people from Europe immigrated into this country in the first place is because of intolerance and the desire to live as they pleased. Anybody who says that 'only white people' or 'only european people' belong in this country should be sent back to Europe, because they've essentially become the bigots and racists that the founding fathers of this country were running from. Furthermore, to pretend this country is 'only white' or 'only christian' is entirely ridiculous. The people of this country were created from dozens of races and cultures. The vast majority of the 'white' people i've met have a family tree spanning many nations. To selectively exclude a group of immigrants is like going to your ancestors and kicking them in the face the second they stepped foot in this country."

::Edit:: Also, the way the article is worded, the guy wants to kick out all minorities just because there was one psycho... riiiiight.
 

pennylane

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Uh-oh. Well, I better pack my bags. Been nice knowing you. I'll be sure not to commit any violent crimes on my way out.
 

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Originally posted by: Connoisseur
It's an extreme right wing article... what do you expect?

The quote in the OP is from a reader that replied to the article.

Here is what the blogger originally wrote:
Has anyone ever added up the number of white Americans killed by non-white immigrants over the years, starting with the murder of Frank Lloyd Wright's mistress Margaret Cheney, her two children, and three house guests and the burning down of Wright's home Taliesen by a black immigrant servant in 1914, up to the murder of New York City actress Adrienne Shelley by illegal alien Diego Pillco in November 2006? It is not an insignificant number. Whatever the number, barely a week passes in which a white American is not killed by a non-white immigrant or illegal alien.

Is that a racist thing to say? The fact is that immigration is by itself a traumatic experience, and that the immigration of poor non-whites into a prosperous, majority-white country often (and predictably) triggers feelings of racial alienation, racial envy, and racial hostility on the part of the non-white immigrant toward the white majority population.

Which is still a stupid thing to say because Cho killed more than just rich white kids.

Still, there is something to be said about crimes committed by illegal aliens in this country and politician's unwillingness to deport them/keep them out.
 

angminas

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I won't pretend to be able to say what most people in America think. Most of the people I have (and I myself) met think immigrants are fine as long as they do their part. They need to adapt somewhat. They need to learn passable English, if nothing else. I cannot imagine the attitude it takes to move to another country and then expect them to speak your native language for simple things like how much bread costs. Of course, I also cannot imagine what it's like to have no education whatsoever, and I try to remember that. But MANY people move to America and live here for years without ever learning more than a few words of English, and that's just wrong in so many ways.

Basically, I couldn't care less what color somebody is, beyond basic curiosity. I care very much how people act. If you move to another country, you take on the responsibility to learn how to get along with the people there, instead of stubbornly and lazily making them learn how to get along with you. Yes, this is a brief summary, and check my sig.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
We're all prejudiced bigots inside, only few are willing to admit it.

Just because YOU are doesn't mean we all are. :roll:
 

Vonkhan

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<---- here illegally















and by here, I mean ATOT since I'm stealling some1's Wi-FI :D what were u thinking?
 

JDub02

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The author is a nut.

I'm all for controlling immigration, but strictly on the grounds of whether or not a person wants to become an American or bring their country to America.

I feel that immigrants should have a desire to assimilate into the American culture (that includes getting a job and learning English). Other than that, I don't care what you look like or where you're from.
 

angminas

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Originally posted by: JDub02
The author is a nut.

I'm all for controlling immigration, but strictly on the grounds of whether or not a person wants to become an American or bring their country to America.

I feel that immigrants should have a desire to assimilate into the American culture (that includes getting a job and learning English). Other than that, I don't care what you look like or where you're from.

You summarized my views much better than I did, though I am not sure about the author.
 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: Vonkhan
<---- here illegally















and by here, I mean ATOT since I'm stealling some1's Wi-FI :D what were u thinking?

GET OUT OF OUR FORUMS! :|
 

mrkun

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Umm, when the Irish first arrived in the US, weren't they considered to be racially inferior to other whites because they were poor and committed much more crime than other people (like Hispanic immigrants today)?
 

homercles337

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Head over to P&N, this attitude is prevalent with the resident righties. Latent or hidden, but still prevalent.
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: mrkun
Umm, when the Irish first arrived in the US, weren't they considered to be racially inferior to other whites because they were poor and committed much more crime than other people (like Hispanic immigrants today)?

The immigration debate today is a great example of history repeating itself. What you hear people saying today is nothing new, it has been happening over and over in the U.S. for hundreds of years. The name of the ethnic group may change, but the arguments and attitudes remain the same.
 

DanTMWTMP

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This nation is (ideally at least) an immigratant nation --> no ifs/buts about it. The whole "illegal" thing started in the 1900's and started as a racial thing. Prior to that, anyone can come in, and as long as you worked for 5 years (i think?), you can gain citizenship. The whole 230+ year experiment should be debated from one shooting incident?


Weren't there battles amongst immigrant groups in NY a long time ago? At some point or another, each ethnic group in the US was an immigrant.

As an immigrant nation at heart, I think the whole "illegal" or "alien" label is absolute bullshiet (although, if people still want to try today, they should do it within the laws of the nation.. ehh donno. I'm on either side of the debate. I'm cool w/ some ideas for immigrant reform, and cool w/ some ideas for against people coming here "illegally")
 

mrkun

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Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
This nation is (ideally at least) an immigratant nation --> no ifs/buts about it. The whole "illegal" thing started in the 1900's and started as a racial thing. Prior to that, anyone can come in, and as long as you worked for 5 years (i think?), you can gain citizenship. The whole 230+ year experiment should be debated from one shooting incident?


Weren't there battles amongst immigrant groups in NY a long time ago? At some point or another, each ethnic group in the US was an immigrant.

As an immigrant nation at heart, I think the whole "illegal" or "alien" label is absolute bullshiet (although, if people still want to try today, they should do it within the laws of the nation.. ehh donno. I'm on either side of the debate. I'm cool w/ some ideas for immigrant reform, and cool w/ some ideas for against people coming here "illegally")

But, but, you don't understand. We have to defend the Purity of the White Race! ;)
 

Arkitech

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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
We're all prejudiced bigots inside, only few are willing to admit it.

speak for yourself

I honestly could care less what a person's skin color is. I prefer the company of intelligent, respectful people does'nt make a difference to me if they're green or purple.

Well maybe not purple, those purple guys are not to be trusted. :D
 

Dumac

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Originally posted by: Arkitech
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
We're all prejudiced bigots inside, only few are willing to admit it.

speak for yourself

I honestly could care less what a person's skin color is. I prefer the company of intelligent, respectful people does'nt make a difference to me if they're green or purple.

Well maybe not purple, those purple guys are not to be trusted. :D