"They haven't given us any evidence,"

[Zim Hosein]

WTF as a smoker, how can someone actually say this:

"They don't set any standards for second-hand smoke. They haven't given us any evidence," he said.

Restaurant Owner Defies Smoking Ban, Gives Cigarettes Away

 

[Binar]

second hand smoking is just a damn rumor

 

[UglyCasanova]

It's their restraunt, if they want to allow smoking wtf is the problem? You don't like it, don't go.

 

[MacBaine]

It's a stupid ban. If you don't want second hand smoke, don't go in the smoking section!

<- non-smoker

 

[DanJ]

Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
It's their restraunt, if they want to allow smoking wtf is the problem? You don't like it, don't go.

The problem is its against the law in NY.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: Binar
second hand smoking is just a damn rumor

And AIDS is just a government conspiracy to distract us from all the UFO's flying around!

 

[Zim Hosein]

Originally posted by: UglyCassanova
It's their restraunt, if they want to allow smoking wtf is the problem? You don't like it, don't go.

WOW! you're in a good mood tonight UglyCassanova

I'm not talking about going to the restaurant, as a smoker I'm just how someone can actually make that sort of statement!

 

[Pacfanweb]

I'm against smoking, but if a private business owner wants to allow it in his/her establishment, that should be his/her right to do so.
Make them put up a sign saying that smoking is allowed her, enter at your own risk, or whatever, but get the government the fu&k out of our restaurants.

 

[nan0bug]

Next time I'm in NYC, I'm going there to buy that guy a beer.

 

[Binar]

The fact is how many crimes ever happened because of smoking? Let me tell you NONE
How many crimes ever happened because of alcohol? Too may to count

Smoking is not the real problem but oh well they tried to ban alcohol a while ago and it didn't work .They try to do the same thing with cigarettes now

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: Binar
second hand smoking is just a damn rumor

requardless of health issues, it smells like sh!t, but i dont have a problem with smoking & non-smoking sections...

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein


I'm not talking about going to the restaurant, as a smoker I'm just how someone can actually make that sort of statement!

Nobody has ever proven anything about second hand smoke's effects on health.

 

[Zim Hosein]

Originally posted by: jaeger66

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein

I'm not talking about going to the restaurant, as a smoker I'm just how someone can actually make that sort of statement!

Nobody has ever proven anything about second hand smoke's effects on health.

Are you sure jaeger66?

"What You Can Do About Secondhand Smoke as Parents, Decision-Makers, and Building Occupants"

 

[jaeger66]

Oh, I'm sure. Extrapolating the direct effects of smoking isn't enough.

 

[Zim Hosein]

Originally posted by: jaeger66
Oh, I'm sure. Extrapolating the direct effects of smoking isn't enough.

 

[tcsenter]

The fact is how many crimes ever happened because of smoking? Let me tell you NONE

Wait until the price of cigarettes becomes so high that the blackmarket entrepeneurs start to see opportunity. Oh, sorry, my bad, they already have:

Cigarette Taxes, Black Markets, and Crime: Lessons from New York?s 50-Year Losing Battle

"In New York, it is literally more profitable to hijack a cigarette-delivery truck than an armored truck."

 

[Binar]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

The fact is how many crimes ever happened because of smoking? Let me tell you NONE

Wait until the price of cigarettes becomes so high that the blackmarket entrepeneurs start to see opportunity. Oh, sorry, my bad, they already have:

Cigarette Taxes, Black Markets, and Crime: Lessons from New York?s 50-Year Losing Battle

"In New York, it is literally more profitable to hijack a cigarette-delivery truck than an armored truck."

that's why ppl are using
www.yesmoke.com

 

[paruhd0x]

Originally posted by: MacBaine
It's a stupid ban. If you don't want second hand smoke, don't go in the smoking section!

<- non-smoker

Sure, but what about the employees serving the people that smoke, I am sure they would protest to people smoking since they originally joined the resturaunt knowing they wouldn't have to deal with this bs.

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: paruhd0x

Originally posted by: MacBaine
It's a stupid ban. If you don't want second hand smoke, don't go in the smoking section!

<- non-smoker

Sure, but what about the employees serving the people that smoke, I am sure they would protest to people smoking since they originally joined the resturaunt knowing they wouldn't have to deal with this bs.

As a business owner you should be able to make changes in your policies if needed...you own the place. They can change it into a strip club if they feel like it. If employees don't like it they can find another restaraunt to work at.

 

[IcePhoenix]

Originally posted by: flavio

Originally posted by: paruhd0x

Originally posted by: MacBaine
It's a stupid ban. If you don't want second hand smoke, don't go in the smoking section!

<- non-smoker

Sure, but what about the employees serving the people that smoke, I am sure they would protest to people smoking since they originally joined the resturaunt knowing they wouldn't have to deal with this bs.

As a business owner you should be able to make changes in your policies if needed...you own the place. They can change it into a strip club if they feel like it. If employees don't like it they can find another restaraunt to work at.

Thats what I agree with. The only problem is that New York State recently enacted a ban on smoking in all public places (correct me if I am wrong, this is how I heard i). Bars, pool halls, restaurants. While I don't smoke, and despise the habit, I do think businesses should be able to make their own decisions about what they want and do not want. My friend lives near a smoke free pool hall (I was shocked by the site of a smoke free pool hall) and it was nice. But the place went under; no one went cause they couldn't smoke. I think it should be up to the proprietor and not the state. If people don't like the smoke, they can go elsewhere.

 

[isasir]

Originally posted by: Binar
The fact is how many crimes ever happened because of smoking? Let me tell you NONE

A couple of months ago, after the smoking ban in NY went into effect, a bouncer was killed trying to enforce the law on someone who was trying to smoke in the bar.

 

[xospec1alk]

Originally posted by: RishiS

Originally posted by: Binar
The fact is how many crimes ever happened because of smoking? Let me tell you NONE

A couple of months ago, after the smoking ban in NY went into effect, a bouncer was killed trying to enforce the law on someone who was trying to smoke in the bar.

it was not BECAUSE of the smoking ban, its because the guy the bouncer was trying to kick out was an a$$hole who thought he was bigger than the law. dont blame the smoking ban, that is sooooo weak....

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
WTF as a smoker, how can someone actually say this:

"They don't set any standards for second-hand smoke. They haven't given us any evidence," he said.

Restaurant Owner Defies Smoking Ban, Gives Cigarettes Away

in answer to your original question, they can say it because it's basically true.

 

[digitalsm]

I dont know about other smoking bans, but the Dallas smoking ban, its not up to the resturant to enforce the ban. So its rarely enforced.

 

[Mrburns2007]

As a non-smoker and a person that hates breathing all that cancer causing crap that other people are killing themselves with I'm quite happy with the ban.