"these ones" - is that proper grammar?

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Lifer
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It is similar but I think "those ones over there" makes sense, but "these ones over there" doesn't since the "these" implies that they are here and not there so "these ones over here" would make sense.

Unless you're talking about just "these ones" in which it is grammatically correct.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: BassBomb
it does sound awkward but it is similar to "those ones over there"

that sounds just as awkward.
i would've said, "i like those over there."

Did you fail Grovers near and far demonstration?

These are here - NEAR
Those are there - FAR

NEAR........FAR
 

BassBomb

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Nov 25, 2005
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: BassBomb
it does sound awkward but it is similar to "those ones over there"

that sounds just as awkward.
i would've said, "i like those over there."

Did you fail Grovers near and far demonstration?

These are here - NEAR
Those are there - FAR

NEAR........FAR

Did you fail ATOT's spelling demonstration?

DAMN you fixed it by the time I quoted
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: BassBomb
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: BassBomb
it does sound awkward but it is similar to "those ones over there"

that sounds just as awkward.
i would've said, "i like those over there."

Did you fail Grovers near and far demonstration?

These are here - NEAR
Those are there - FAR

NEAR........FAR

Did you fail ATOT's spelling demonstration?

DAMN you fixed it by the time I quoted

Hell yeah I fixed it. That would have been enbarrassing. ;)
 

Mo0o

Lifer
Jul 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: BassBomb
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: BassBomb
it does sound awkward but it is similar to "those ones over there"

that sounds just as awkward.
i would've said, "i like those over there."

Did you fail Grovers near and far demonstration?

These are here - NEAR
Those are there - FAR

NEAR........FAR

Did you fail ATOT's spelling demonstration?

DAMN you fixed it by the time I quoted

Hell yeah I fixed it. That would have been enbarrassing. ;)

Muphry's Law? ;)
 

jonks

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Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: BassBomb
it does sound awkward but it is similar to "those ones over there"

that sounds just as awkward.
i would've said, "i like those over there."

Did you fail Grovers near and far demonstration?

These are here - NEAR
Those are there - FAR

NEAR........FAR

What if you're pointing to a picture of 2 coconuts on a beach in Hawaii...near or far?
 

blackdogdeek

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these - yes
those - yes
the ones - yes
these ones - no
those ones - no

eg - which ones? those on the table. these under the table. the ones on the table. the ones under the table.
 
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These ones and those ones are acceptable gramatically. However, in typical usage, it sounds less awkward to omit ones and simply say these or those.
 

Zenmervolt

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Oct 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Perfectly correct.

"Which ones do you like?"
"I like these (ones)"

Nope, incorrect. My mother's a teacher, I've had it pounded into my brain for decades. The phrases "these ones" and "those ones" are redundant. Like saying "ATM Machine".

The phrases have become sufficiently widespread that they are in common use, but they still represent a sloppy approach to grammar.

ZV