I just got retail athlon xp 1800. I want to use thermal compound on the heat sink that came with the cpu. Do I have to scrape the thermal tape off completely or can I just peel off the top and apply the compound?
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thermal tape and thermal compound
- Thread starter tlee
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Clean that heatsink spotless. You need to get it all off of there or it will affect the performance of the cooler.
The tape needs to come off completely and can sometime be a pain in the arse. If it is anything like the black stuff that P4's ship with, do this:
1
Use WD-40 to dissolve and remove the tape. Spray it on and let sit for about 20 seconds.
2
Then clean the bottom thoroughly with rubbing alcohol. Do this a few time to ensure all the tape and WD-40 is gone.
3
Put a very small amount of hopefully ASII on the middle of the HS and rub it in with your finger through a plastic sandwich bag. Rub off any excess if you used too much. Again, a tiny amount here will fill the unseen crevices in you heatsink.
4
Grease the CPU and put the HS on.
LJ
1
Use WD-40 to dissolve and remove the tape. Spray it on and let sit for about 20 seconds.
2
Then clean the bottom thoroughly with rubbing alcohol. Do this a few time to ensure all the tape and WD-40 is gone.
3
Put a very small amount of hopefully ASII on the middle of the HS and rub it in with your finger through a plastic sandwich bag. Rub off any excess if you used too much. Again, a tiny amount here will fill the unseen crevices in you heatsink.
4
Grease the CPU and put the HS on.
LJ
Hmm I never thought to use wd-40 to remove it. I'll have to try that.
Make sure when you "grease the cpu" you put a thin layer on. Just thin enough so that you cant see through it.
Make sure when you "grease the cpu" you put a thin layer on. Just thin enough so that you cant see through it.
I used to recommend using wd40 till I read this at the artic silver site:
Thermal pads can be scraped off with a plastic tool that will not scratch the bottom then the remnants can be removed with a xylene based cleaner, (Goof Off and some carburetor cleaners) acetone, MEK, mineral spirits, or 99% pure isopropyl alcohol.
Never use any oil or petroleum based cleaners (WD-40, citrus based cleaners and many automotive degreasers) on the base of a heatsink. The oil, which is engineered to not evaporate, will fill in the microscopic valleys in the metal and significantly reduce the effectiveness of any subsequently applied thermal compound.
If your heatsink has a thermal 'pad' mounted on it, this pad must be removed before using Arctic Silver II. Thermal pads are made with paraffin wax that melts once it gets hot. When it melts, it will fill in the microscopic valleys in the heatsink with wax. To minimize the permanent contamination of the mounting surface with wax, the thermal pad should be removed before it is used and melted. Never use heat or hot water to remove the pad, the heat will melt the wax into the heatsink.
full AS instructions here!
Thermal pads can be scraped off with a plastic tool that will not scratch the bottom then the remnants can be removed with a xylene based cleaner, (Goof Off and some carburetor cleaners) acetone, MEK, mineral spirits, or 99% pure isopropyl alcohol.
Never use any oil or petroleum based cleaners (WD-40, citrus based cleaners and many automotive degreasers) on the base of a heatsink. The oil, which is engineered to not evaporate, will fill in the microscopic valleys in the metal and significantly reduce the effectiveness of any subsequently applied thermal compound.
If your heatsink has a thermal 'pad' mounted on it, this pad must be removed before using Arctic Silver II. Thermal pads are made with paraffin wax that melts once it gets hot. When it melts, it will fill in the microscopic valleys in the heatsink with wax. To minimize the permanent contamination of the mounting surface with wax, the thermal pad should be removed before it is used and melted. Never use heat or hot water to remove the pad, the heat will melt the wax into the heatsink.
full AS instructions here!
I have read that too, but have seen many contradictions as well. It work fine for me and that is why I say to follow up immediately with alcohol. My temps have always been ultra low. To each his own, it just seems that WD40 removes the pad, while the alcohol just smears it over and over requiring a lot of effrt to remove it, hence probably filling those microscopic valleys with tape compound. I also never use WD40 on the CPU.
Also, pads that come on the heatsink are already melted on. They are already filling the microgrooves. The only way to completely remove the pad is to lap your heatsink. I wish they would just send the pads along not attached, but they are on there for the non-hardware based person and to verify they are used (Not using them voids your warranty on your chip, I believe).
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Just to note that I believe the pads to be inadequate for overclocking (overclocking voids your warranty too........ ) If your not going to overclock and your case has adequate ventilation, then use the pad and don't worry about temps. When and if it ever cooks in the next 3 years (is retail AMD warranty still 3 years?) you can just get it replaced.
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Just to note that I believe the pads to be inadequate for overclocking (overclocking voids your warranty too........
) If your not going to overclock and your case has adequate ventilation, then use the pad and don't worry about temps. When and if it ever cooks in the next 3 years (is retail AMD warranty still 3 years?) you can just get it replaced.MrThompson - no thanks, my temps are fine. I am not into lapping to get 1 degree of celcius cooler. Save that for the water-cooling crowd. There is no residue on my HS and my temps are exactly where they should be for a P4 2.0a.
LarryJoe - I see, apparently Nevin and the other engineers that specialize in thermal interfaces must not know what they are doing. If you're happy I guess that's what counts.
If you're happy I guess that's what counts.MrThompson - I am not going to get into a debate with you about this. I am quite happy, thank you. You are clearly into this way more than I am as I have no freakin idea who the hell "Nevin" is, and I really don't care.
So you are right and I am wrong. Have fun lapping your heatsink and reading your thermal engineering books. Hell, if you put that lapped heatsink under your pillow, you may get a tube of ASII from the Heatsink fairy
So you are right and I am wrong. Have fun lapping your heatsink and reading your thermal engineering books. Hell, if you put that lapped heatsink under your pillow, you may get a tube of ASII from the Heatsink fairy
LarryJoe - I hope you did not take my comments the wrong way. I realize you are happy and that's what counts. I have no desire to debate this issue either. My comments were intended to set the record straight for the other folks that may read this thread. BTW, Nevin is the head dude at Arctic Silver.
Well, I guess I did, but that is how your comments read to me.
<< LarryJoe - I see, apparently Nevin and the other engineers that specialize in thermal interfaces must not know what they are doing. If you're happy I guess that's what counts. >>
I stated my case, I said it works for me, to each his own, etc. I don't know what else to say, I have used WD-40 for years on heatsinks and others have as well. I have never had a temperature problem. I have also never felt the need to lap a heatsink or a CPU. But if that is what you are into, then you probably buy the WD-40 sinking into the "crevices of a heatsink" will raise your temps. You know what, it just might, but I could care less as my temps are arctic cool, always have been too, WD-40 and all.
So, for the record, because somebody may read this trying to go from 31.9C to 31.8C, WD-40 is not recommended by "Nevin", CEO of Arctic Silver. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Oh and BTW, MrThompson, I am just having a little fun here, I am in a sarcastic mood today. It been a long time since I was involved in a flame war. This is not meant to be one.
Sincerely,
LJ
<< LarryJoe - I see, apparently Nevin and the other engineers that specialize in thermal interfaces must not know what they are doing. If you're happy I guess that's what counts. >>
I stated my case, I said it works for me, to each his own, etc. I don't know what else to say, I have used WD-40 for years on heatsinks and others have as well. I have never had a temperature problem. I have also never felt the need to lap a heatsink or a CPU. But if that is what you are into, then you probably buy the WD-40 sinking into the "crevices of a heatsink" will raise your temps. You know what, it just might, but I could care less as my temps are arctic cool, always have been too, WD-40 and all.
So, for the record, because somebody may read this trying to go from 31.9C to 31.8C, WD-40 is not recommended by "Nevin", CEO of Arctic Silver. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Oh and BTW, MrThompson, I am just having a little fun here, I am in a sarcastic mood today. It been a long time since I was involved in a flame war. This is not meant to be one.
Sincerely,
LJ
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