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ClarityZedd

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the honest reality of the situation that nobody wants to admit - you will never be in great shape unless you're okay being mildly hungry all the time. I'm talking the process required to get to an athletic body fat percentage. Once you get there, you can maintain just eating normally but you will never lose the weight to look awesome unless you're okay being mildly hungry

For me, the hunger pains are a necessary evil - they are a sign that your body is starting to deplete the fat reserves to get you in real shape. The harder the hunger pains are, the more weight you're losing. It's just about balancing that fine line of the hunger not being overwhelming to where it interferes with your brain function and how you feel. I can tolerate mild hunger quite easily nowadays

Everybody wants to go on with this bullshit about that diet and this diet...reality is the only way you're ever gonna look awesome is if you cut the eating down to nearly nothing and are okay with that
 
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There's also this other trick about eating smaller portions of things more often, thus training your body to burn calories more often. It works. This does not mean a full course meal 5 times a day, but rather, healthy snack in between meal and nothing after 9pm.

There are many things you can eat that will curb hunger and not go overboard on calories.

Also, many times when you think you are hungry, you are actually thirsty. Drink some water, eat a little mint.
 
Red Squirrel

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ClarityZedd said:
which is not possible unless you're okay being hungry all the time
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Need to cut out the empty calories like pop and stuff that's really high in sugar. Me personally I don't really watch what I eat as much as I should, but I tend to hover around 140-155ish pounds. 155 being the high end. I may have hit like 160 once, when I used to drink lot of pepsi.
 
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ImpulsE69 said:
There's also this other trick about eating smaller portions of things more often, thus training your body to burn calories more often. It works. This does not mean a full course meal 5 times a day, but rather, healthy snack in between meal and nothing after 9pm.
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That's actually my main weakness, I find myself often only eating one big meal per day. Mostly because of my work schedule but also because I hate cooking and not really good at it. If I spend an hour or two preparing something I only want to do that once in the day. I really need to force myself to learn more recipes for stuff I can make in large batches and then freeze.
 
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ClarityZedd said:
the honest reality of the situation that nobody wants to admit - you will never be in great shape unless you're okay being mildly hungry all the time. I'm talking the process required to get to an athletic body fat percentage. Once you get there, you can maintain just eating normally but you will never lose the weight to look awesome unless you're okay being mildly hungry

For me, the hunger pains are a necessary evil - they are a sign that your body is starting to deplete the fat reserves to get you in real shape. The harder the hunger pains are, the more weight you're losing. It's just about balancing that fine line of the hunger not being overwhelming to where it interferes with your brain function and how you feel. I can tolerate mild hunger quite easily nowadays

Everybody wants to go on with this bullshit about that diet and this diet...reality is the only way you're ever gonna look awesome is if you cut the eating down to nearly nothing and are okay with that
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Humans evolved with hunger. Seasonal feast or famine. Hunger is natural. Year around food availability is not. With out any low food availability periods we just ratchet up our waistlines.

Other unnatural things that f-up our bodies:

-caffeine (google 'caffeine adrenal gland,' and if you still consume caffeine after that research, well you want to hurt yourself)

-alcohol - this one's obvious.

-sweetened food - so much harm. One obese friend of mine posts pictures of her toddler with a big jar of jam, a spoon, and jam all over her face, she thinks that's cute, but to me it's very, very sad.

The list goes on (salt, frying, BBQ/smoked meats - carcinogens, ...). I call them the profit centers of misery along with the F-22.

My mom died of obesity at 58. Two current family members are on their last legs with such damaged livers from lifetimes of booze, and obesity too, and almost need dialysis as well. The only other nerd in my family died from the bottle at 56, some years after the end of prohibition. He was an engineer and designed vast generators for power plants and submarine motors for Westinghouse in the thirties and forties. I was born after he died.

Despite the body's built-in calming, wakefulness, and comforting systems we get it outside, meaning those systems atrophy, meaning we need more from the outside, a very viscous cycle.

Whoever said that people should not allow themselves to be hungry was a big fat wimp.
 
Red Squirrel

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Caffeine is probably my biggest weakness, mostly because I like to sit down and relax and have a coffee. Before coffee it was Pepsi. When I slowed down, and then quit (more or less) pop, then that just got replaced with coffee as a "sit down and relax" drink. I still drink water too, just want something else some times. Though there are so many studies on coffee it's not even funny. Half of them say it's bad and half of them say it's good. So I don't plan to stop, but I guess I should watch not to over do it. Like I usually brew about 6 cups in one go and have that in the morning over the course of 1-2 hours to sip on. Sometimes I'll brew another at night... maybe I need to simply stop doing the night batch and keep it at one.

I only drink mine black though, so at least the caffeine is really the only thing I have to worry about. Some people put so much cream and sugar may as well just be drinking a Pepsi at that point lol. I knew someone who used to get TWO triple triples at Tim Horton's. He'd chug the first one. I never even seen someone chug coffee before. Then he'd sip on the 2nd one for the next little while, like normal. Basically he wanted the instant hit, and then still have a drink to sip on.

On subject of being hungry, I rarely go hungry, but some times I'm in a mellow mood not doing much, so I may possibly stay in the hungry/starving state for a bit before I decide to move my lazy ass and actually eat something. :p When I'm actively working on something though I tend to want to eat something and be full, not really great to work when hungry. Like when I was working on my shed I'd even take a protein shake if I wanted something but didn't want to waste time making something. Not exactly a meal but at least it put something in my body. Especially when I was working on it in December. Daylight hours are very few, didn't want to waste time making a meal.
 
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I must be a superhuman because I eat until I'm full (and even sometimes over-full) at every single meal but I'm in great shape. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've had "hunger pangs" in the past year or two.
 
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snoopy7548 said:
I must be a superhuman because I eat until I'm full (and even sometimes over-full) at every single meal but I'm in great shape. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've had "hunger pangs" in the past year or two.
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I'm guessing you trained yourself to have a very small appetite over time

I can eat 6000 calories in a sitting and keep wanting to eat and eat
 
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ClarityZedd said:
the honest reality of the situation that nobody wants to admit - you will never be in great shape unless you're okay being mildly hungry all the time. I'm talking the process required to get to an athletic body fat percentage. Once you get there, you can maintain just eating normally but you will never lose the weight to look awesome unless you're okay being mildly hungry

For me, the hunger pains are a necessary evil - they are a sign that your body is starting to deplete the fat reserves to get you in real shape. The harder the hunger pains are, the more weight you're losing. It's just about balancing that fine line of the hunger not being overwhelming to where it interferes with your brain function and how you feel. I can tolerate mild hunger quite easily nowadays

Everybody wants to go on with this bullshit about that diet and this diet...reality is the only way you're ever gonna look awesome is if you cut the eating down to nearly nothing and are okay with that
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Nope. Retard, troll or retarded troll? I'm guessing balding manlet retarded troll.
 
Red Squirrel

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snoopy7548 said:
I must be a superhuman because I eat until I'm full (and even sometimes over-full) at every single meal but I'm in great shape. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've had "hunger pangs" in the past year or two.
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That's pretty much how I am, it's rare that I feel the hunger pangs. I pretty much only eat when I'm hungry. Managed to stay in the 140-155 range that way. I may have hit 160 at one point when I was overindulging in junk food and sugar. I still somewhat watch what I eat but I'm not really on an actual diet. Life is too short for that. Eat the cake!
 
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Red Squirrel said:
That's pretty much how I am, it's rare that I feel the hunger pangs. I pretty much only eat when I'm hungry. Managed to stay in the 140-155 range that way. I may have hit 160 at one point when I was overindulging in junk food and sugar. I still somewhat watch what I eat but I'm not really on an actual diet. Life is too short for that. Eat the cake!
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you have trained yourself to have a very small appetite - this is reality of the situation

Fat people, due to their overeating, have mostly developed a huge appetite. I was fat as a kid so I'm very aware of how they operate. I can sit down and eat 8000 calories and keep wanting more and more and more and more and more and more. I never feel full or satisfied. I have to force myself to stop eating. I absolutely love food, I can eat when I'm bored/sad/happy/etc...

It's almost like a food addiction what fat people have, which is why they have to force themselves to learn to be ok being depleted on food/hungry
 
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ClarityZedd said:
the honest reality of the situation that nobody wants to admit - you will never be in great shape unless you're okay being mildly hungry all the time. I'm talking the process required to get to an athletic body fat percentage. Once you get there, you can maintain just eating normally but you will never lose the weight to look awesome unless you're okay being mildly hungry

For me, the hunger pains are a necessary evil - they are a sign that your body is starting to deplete the fat reserves to get you in real shape. The harder the hunger pains are, the more weight you're losing. It's just about balancing that fine line of the hunger not being overwhelming to where it interferes with your brain function and how you feel. I can tolerate mild hunger quite easily nowadays

Everybody wants to go on with this bullshit about that diet and this diet...reality is the only way you're ever gonna look awesome is if you cut the eating down to nearly nothing and are okay with that
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My body is in constant switching between "I want delicious foods to relieve stress and feel happy" and "I want alcohol to relieve stress and feel happy". Pick your poison.

The alternative is to reduce the stress - which would likely require me to stop being being employed, lose money, regain stress from loss of income, etc...... so again, rolls back into "Pick your poison"

I'm a former fattie that used to eat shitloads of candy and fast food. I haven't touched fast food and haven't over-indulged in candy in a long time - but man I can get right back to where I was in an instant if I so much as enjoy myself for one week. Sucks mang - your metabolism will flush itself down the toilet when you get older as your daily caloric burning dwindles further and further....
 
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ClarityZedd said:
reality is the only way you're ever gonna look awesome is if you cut the eating down to nearly nothing and are okay with that
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I dunno, I eat like seven times a day (so that I always stay full) and am in pretty decent shape. You only have to eat at a deficit when you want to lose weight, then you just eat at maintenance calories (or better yet, maintenance macros) to stay where you're at. Of course, people do crazy tricks for bodybuilding shows like dehydrating themselves, but those are more for one-time events rather than daily lifestyle. Unless you are someone super dedicated like Helmet Strebl.

But it also depends on your goals. It's the same thing with being sore all the time while bodybuilding. I just do calisthenics-based bodyweight workouts and am not sore all the time. Then again, my goal is just to be shredded & not huge, so if you're pursusing constant gains, then you're going to be a sore a lot from ripping up your muscles due to increase weight, increased reps, and growth.
 
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Drinking the recommended amount of water greatly reduces hunger pains.
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Yep. But I don't think it's reducing hunger pains, it's actually reducing thirst. Hunger pains and thirst are often easily confused (the biochemical signals are very similar, so individuals easily misinterpret them) and that is a big issue: "I'm hungry!" tends to actually mean you are just thirsty, and instead of tackling that properly with some water, the "hungry" person solves their dilemma with a double quarter-pounder.

One would think that it would be relatively easy to coach humans into first responding to "hunger pains" by drinking a cup or two of water, and see if that solves the problem, but you know: humans.
 
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