There is NO database for Death by Cop....

JEDIYoda

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Check...I also checked...there is no database......now that is interesting......
Yes this is from a blog...but it is amazingly and dishearteningly true!

about the author -- Hi, my name is D. Brian Burghart. I’m the editor/publisher of the Reno News & Review, a dual-master’s student and journalism instructor at the University of Nevada, Reno. This is my blog. I live in Reno, Nevada. I’ve created this page because I believe in a free democracy citizens should be able to figure out how many people are killed by law enforcement, why they were killed, and whether training and policies can be modified to decrease the number of officer-involved deaths.

Another blog with the same article-- http://www.fatalencounters.org/

http://www.upworthy.com/every-time-...-noticed-one-detail-was-always-missing?c=ufb1


Deaths by police encounters; you'd think there'd be a database for that

One journalist thought so. When he found out there wasn't one, he decided to crowdsource. This is D. Brian Burghart's story.


The nation’s leading law enforcement agency [FBI] collects vast amounts of information on crime nationwide, but missing from this clearinghouse are statistics on where, how often, and under what circumstances police use deadly force. In fact, no one anywhere comprehensively tracks the most significant act police can do in the line of duty: take a life,” according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal in its series Deadly Force (Nov. 28, 2011).


I think we should create the ability to track that act. This idea came to me in the wake of the Oct. 6, 2012, killing of a naked, unarmed college student, Gil Collar, at the University of South Alabama. All I wanted was context, to answer a simple question: How many people are killed by police in the United States every year? I looked. I’m still looking. Turns out that Collar was on drugs, including marijuana and 25I-C-NBOMe, also known as 25-I. The freshman never got within 5 feet of the officer. On March 1, 2013, the policeman was cleared of wrongdoing.



I intend to use this website to help create a database of all deaths of individuals through police interaction in the United States since Jan. 1, 2000. I’m FOIA-ing various agencies to get the information, but a large piece of this–the part that will make it sustain after the initial work–will use crowdsourcing to maintain the database in the future.


As a longtime newspaper editor, an instructor, and an advanced student in journalism, I understand standards of ethics and objectivity. I intend to keep this site as impartial and data-driven as possible. I don’t have any grievance against law enforcement, but I do believe Americans should be able to answer some simple questions: How many people are killed in interactions with law enforcement in the United States of America? What do those people look like? Are there some jurisdictions where people are more likely to be killed?


Thanks,
D. Brian Burghart

Then there is this-- http://zerogov.com/?p=3514 -- very informative
 

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about the author -- Hi, my name is D. Brian Burghart. I’m the editor/publisher of the Reno News & Review, a dual-master’s student and journalism instructor at the University of Nevada, Reno. This is my blog. I live in Reno, Nevada.

I’ve created this page because I believe in a free democracy citizens should be able to figure out how many people are killed by law enforcement, why they were killed, and whether training and policies can be modified to decrease the number of officer-involved deaths.

His first mistake is that this is not a Free Democracy.
 

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There ought to be a database, but how will the data be gathered and who will do it under what protocol? Devil's in the details, but yeah there should be some way of sifting through records and arriving as some useful and objective information
 

JEDIYoda

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His first mistake is that this is not a Free Democracy.
oh well.....I think the dude is spot on for the reason we need to have a database...

How many people are killed by police in the United States every year.
How many people are killed in interactions with law enforcement in the United States of America?
What do those people look like?
Are there some jurisdictions where people are more likely to be killed?
 
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brycejones

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I would love to see a database of police involved shooting deaths. I'm sure it would show that the majority of police involved shooting deaths are justified.

You would need 2 databases. One maintained normal people and one maintained by the cop haters.
 

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I'd like to see a database on how many police contacts there are with the public each day that don't end in deaths...
 

rommelrommel

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The information is out there, just because the government doesn't spoon feed it to you doesn't mean that it's being withheld.
 

JEDIYoda

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I'd like to see a database on how many police contacts there are with the public each day that don't end in deaths...
of course you would and so would I!
But then again in all honesty you could not use those statistics to sweep under the table the fact there are cops out on the street who squeal like a happy pig when they get to use their weapon!
It would also be interesting to know -- how many cops when they pull somebody over, antagonize or try to get the motorist to sat or do something that warrants the use of force...
 

JEDIYoda

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The information is out there, just because the government doesn't spoon feed it to you doesn't mean that it's being withheld.
actually it is being withheld....do a google search tell me what statistics you find...this ought to be interesting!
 

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actually it is being withheld....do a google search tell me what statistics you find...this ought to be interesting!

So you're telling me that cops routinely shoot people causing their death and there are no press releases or news stories anywhere about them? What do the cops do, send the men in black to wipe the memories of the reporters and witnesses?
 
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So you're telling me that cops routinely shoot people causing their death and there are no press releases or news stories anywhere about them? What do the cops do, send the men in black to wipe the memories of the reporters and witnesses?

Did you read either of the links in the op?
 

rommelrommel

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Did you read either of the links in the op?

There's a difference between the government not providing the database requested and arguing that the information doesn't exist. He has chosen to say that the government is suppressing the information and thus it's not available to be compiled by someone who wanted to. To that part I call shens.
 

JEDIYoda

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So you're telling me that cops routinely shoot people causing their death and there are no press releases or news stories anywhere about them? What do the cops do, send the men in black to wipe the memories of the reporters and witnesses?
Don`t be an idiot....
I am telling you there is no data base with those statistics..........
 

JEDIYoda

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There's a difference between the government not providing the database requested and arguing that the information doesn't exist. He has chosen to say that the government is suppressing the information and thus it's not available to be compiled by someone who wanted to. To that part I call shens.

The articles say that -- I chose to agree.......
But we can settle this pretty quick -- prove there is a freely accessible data base.....
 

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The articles say that -- I chose to agree.......
But we can settle this pretty quick -- prove there is a freely accessible data base.....

It's called police blotters, newspapers, tv, internet, court records, etc.

I conceed that no government agency has made a free publically available central database to cater to your demands.
 

JEDIYoda

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It's called police blotters, newspapers, tv, internet, court records, etc.

I conceed that no government agency has made a free publically available central database to cater to your demands.

No it`s not called police blotter..newspapers.....tv...etc...that's just an another try to say these statistics are available.....

There is no government or state agency that has these statistics...

Why is the question....a very simple question!