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Lifer
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There's Apple computer, which suffers from less virus attacks, less problems, and then there's PC, which has more virus attacks, more problems. Primarily because there are more PCs out there, nevertheless, this is the case. They are both PCs but for this discussion let's call one the PC and the other the Apple computer. Inspired by Apple ads of course.

Which do you think is the better platform? More robust, stronger? The PC of course. But why? Because given it's popularity, and hence more attacks it has suffered, it's software has been written to a more secure level. If you were to expose the Apple machine to the same level of attack, it would not be able to handle it as well, because it has been shielded from attack from it's lack of exposure to said attacks.

So here comes the funny part. Let's say God's plan is to improve humanity. He would probably want to expose you to much strife in order to flesh out your weaknesses, those weaknesses which must be exposed in order to develop a defense against them.

Perhaps this is why there is so much suffering, so much strife in the world. Because as we all know, humanity isn't without it's abundance of gonads and strife.

Everyone didn't know this. They still don't because not everyone can read. This.

Have a good weekend. And remember, above all else, this is true: God does not disappoint.
 

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disappoint...

i am disappoint.

Me too my good man, me too. To clarify, if I were female I would change my name to Diana Whey. Now if you're smart enough, and that's a big if, because humanity is a big species. But if you're smart enough you will understand what that means.
 

Fritzo

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So you're saying that it's like putting the mashed potatoes on top of the cake BEFORE you do the dishes? I get it now! Good point!
 

DrPizza

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1. Not as popular a platform, therefore virus writers have much bigger targets in the PC market
2. Apples are "easier" to use - appealing to the less computer savvy segment of the population, and those with more money to blow on a computer. i.e. these people are better targets for phishing attacks because they're naive & have more money.
3. Lay off the drugs before posting.
 

gaidensensei

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You need to take up some speech classes if you want to win your audience. I'm guessing improving intelligence is out of the question, so this is your only real hope to convince them.
 

SlitheryDee

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God would have forseen the weaknesses in humanity without need to stess-test for them. Omnipotence yo.
 

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1. Not as popular a platform, therefore virus writers have much bigger targets in the PC market
2. Apples are "easier" to use - appealing to the less computer savvy segment of the population, and those with more money to blow on a computer. i.e. these people are better targets for phishing attacks because they're naive & have more money.
3. Lay off the drugs before posting.

There are plenty of naive people that use Windows PCs.
 

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God would have forseen the weaknesses in humanity without need to stess-test for them. Omnipotence yo.

What you meant was omniscience. But I'll forgive that because you're not all knowing. Also I'd like evidence that God's is omniscient and I'm afraid a bible quote just won't do.
 

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What you meant was omniscience. But I'll forgive that because you're not all knowing. Also I'd like evidence that God's is omniscient and I'm afraid a bible quote just won't do.

So bible quotes aren't enough to prove God is omniscient, but your insane rambling metaphor about computer security proves God has a plan?
 

JimmiG

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Which do you think is the better platform? More robust, stronger? The PC of course. But why? Because given it's popularity, and hence more attacks it has suffered, it's software has been written to a more secure level. If you were to expose the Apple machine to the same level of attack, it would not be able to handle it as well, because it has been shielded from attack from it's lack of exposure to said attacks.

There may be some truth to this. We just don't know how well OSX would fare in terms of security, if it was the dominant OS in the market. Already, many security flaws are being found and taken advantage of in things like Quicktime and iTunes, which are installed on a large number of Windows PC's.

However, I disagree that Windows would be more secure than OSX. Security experts usually say they're about the same. Remember, Windows XP was extremely insecure before SP2. The huge number of security flaws in WinXP was one of the reasons Vista got delayed. Microsoft just could not leave their existing XP customers so vulnerable to attacks. Vista caught up by being inherently more secure, and also because of security features like UAC (which has been part of Linux and OSX for many, many years).

Security isn't about letting your OS out in the wild to see if it "survives". Security is carefully planned and implemented throughout the development cycle.
 

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There may be some truth to this. We just don't know how well OSX would fare in terms of security, if it was the dominant OS in the market. Already, many security flaws are being found and taken advantage of in things like Quicktime and iTunes, which are installed on a large number of Windows PC's.

However, I disagree that Windows would be more secure than OSX. Security experts usually say they're about the same. Remember, Windows XP was extremely insecure before SP2. The huge number of security flaws in WinXP was one of the reasons Vista got delayed. Microsoft just could not leave their existing XP customers so vulnerable to attacks. Vista caught up by being inherently more secure, and also because of security features like UAC (which has been part of Linux and OSX for many, many years).

Security isn't about letting your OS out in the wild to see if it "survives". Security is carefully planned and implemented throughout the development cycle.

Very good. You are almost running into the limitations of the metaphor. People are not computers after all and the metaphor can only be taken so far.

But what I am saying is that letting the OS out in the wild IS part of it's development cycle. how else would you know where it's vulnerabilities lie if no one attacks it?
 

GaryJohnson

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So you think bible quotes do offer proof and you think I'm the insane one?

I never said that. I just think that from a rational "believer's" viewpoint (not necessarily mine) the bible would hold more credibility than "some guy on ATOT".
 

SlitheryDee

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What you meant was omniscience. But I'll forgive that because you're not all knowing. Also I'd like evidence that God's is omniscient and I'm afraid a bible quote just won't do.

There aren't too many places you can see the specifications on a God. The bible is the main one for the Christian God. You didn't mention the specific one you were talking about though. Maybe he's a cop-out "personal God that I made up to get around all the logical fallacies inherent in the Christian God" God. In that case there's no discussion here.