The word 'book' is now offlimits guys

Bateluer

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http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/26/technology/teachbook/index.htm?source=cnn_bin&hpt=Sbin

Seems like BS to me, on the part of Facebook. I know its been discussed before at AT, in various forums, but our US legal system pertaining to copyrights and patents needs serious reforms for the digital age. Wasting the courts time with lawsuits this retarded should land you with enough penalties to put you into bankruptcy.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Facebook is suing start-up site Teachbook.com for using the word "book" in its name, according to court documents.

The complaint, filed in a California district court last Wednesday, alleges that Teachbook is "rid[ing] on the coattails of the fame and enormous goodwill of the Facebook trademark," said the document obtained by Wired.com.

Facebook, based in Palo Alto, throws a slew of accusations at Teachbook, including federal trademark dilution, trademark infringement and unfair competition.

Teachbook, based in Illinois, isn't launching until fall 2010 and many of the site's links are dead. Shrader said it is a "teacher's community" where users can share lesson plans and seek advice from fellow educators.

"[Teachbook] has created its own competing online networking community in a blatant attempt to become Facebook 'for teachers,'" the suit alleges.

"At the end of the day, they're just trying to bully us and we're not going to roll over," said Greg Shrader, a managing partner at Teachbook. "We have every intention of filing an opposition in a month or so."

Shrader said he applied to trademark Teachbook's name in 2009, and the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office said it found "no similar marks" on record. But before the government could make its final ruling, Shrader said, Facebook filed its opposition and sued Teachbook.

The court filing also claims Teachbook has marketed itself as an alternative to Facebook. It alleges a page on Teachbook's site -- which has since been removed -- once read, "Many schools forbid their teachers to maintain Facebook and MySpace accounts ... With Teachbook, you can manage your profile."

Facebook recently hit the 500 million member mark. By contrast, Teachbook's site said 47 members were online Thursday morning.

A rep for Facebook said the company doesn't claim to own rights to the word "book," as it has no complaint with titles like Kelley Blue Book.

"However, there is already a well-known online service with 'book' in the brand name that helps people connect and share," the Facebook rep said in an email.

Shrader said Facebook's filing "strikes me as greedy. We're a two-person company -- I don't know how a multibillion-dollar site sees us as a threat."

This isn't the first time Facebook has gone after small sites over the -book suffix. The travel site TripTrace -- once called PlaceBook -- detailed in a post how the social networking behemoth forced it to change its name.

"We didn't believe anyone could own the word 'book' apart from 'face,'" reads a post on TripTrace's company blog. "We knew of a number of websites that had similar names that were clearly not copying Facebook: Cookbook, Blackbook, eBook, RunBook ... Racebook, Casebook, Tastebook."

But the site acquiesced to Facebook because, "as a start-up we were in no position to fight." Still, TripTrace seems to have the last laugh.

"We still think of ourselves as PlaceBook," the post reads. "Or, if you chose to pronounce it differently so it doesn't rhyme: PlacéBoök."
 

Bateluer

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Actually seems pretty reasonable to me.

How so? Teachbook is a two person 'company' aiming to provide a service specifically to teachers. As the article notes, a number of other sites use the word 'book' in their names and offer social services. Should Facebook sue them? Should Facebook sue Apple for the name 'MacBook'?

I fully understand branding and copyright dilution, but this is ridiculous and goes way overboard.
 

MikeMike

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How so? Teachbook is a two person 'company' aiming to provide a service specifically to teachers. As the article notes, a number of other sites use the word 'book' in their names and offer social services. Should Facebook sue them? Should Facebook sue Apple for the name 'MacBook'?

I fully understand branding and copyright dilution, but this is ridiculous and goes way overboard.

not really...

there are some very poignant statements in there... I can't just go start a food company called McBurgers... and then compare how we are better than McDonalds, because all we serve are burgers...
 

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not really...

there are some very poignant statements in there... I can't just go start a food company called McBurgers... and then compare how we are better than McDonalds, because all we serve are burgers...

They are not in direct competition...
 

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The word 'book' is now offlimits guys

http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/26/technology/teachbook/index.htm?source=cnn_bin&hpt=Sbin

Seems like BS to me, on the part of Facebook. I know its been discussed before at AT, in various forums, but our US legal system pertaining to copyrights and patents needs serious reforms for the digital age. Wasting the courts time with lawsuits this retarded should land you with enough penalties to put you into bankruptcy.

They also put in on Friday that they own the word "Face". Nothing can use the word face except them now they say.
 

Farang

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How so? Teachbook is a two person 'company' aiming to provide a service specifically to teachers. As the article notes, a number of other sites use the word 'book' in their names and offer social services. Should Facebook sue them? Should Facebook sue Apple for the name 'MacBook'?

I fully understand branding and copyright dilution, but this is ridiculous and goes way overboard.

1) Doesn't matter how big the company is, the bigger it becomes the bigger the problem for facebook.

2) It is obvious that Teachbook is piggybacking on facebook's name to become a direct competitor to it with teacher users. I thought the burger comparison was appropriate.

I think any reasonable person can see that Teachbook's name is derived from Facebook. Not so with Macbook (from notebook) or Kelley Blue Book (a book).
 
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DaveSimmons

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If your product is "Facebook for teachers" then no, you can't name it Teachbook.

This is trademark infringement, nothing like Monster Cable trying to sue Count Floyd of SCTV.
 

sactoking

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Well, I for one welcome our new Monster Cable, I mean FaceBook, overlords. Someone needs to register a a MonsterBook, FaceMonster, or MonsterFace site ASAP.

straight from their site supposedly...

They're still not in direct competition. If someone is banned from a service they cannot use it. If they cannot use it then it is not a viable alternative to a legitimate choice. The Beijing Daily online and New York Times online are not in direct competition in China since the NYT is banned in China.
 

dfuze

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Not really sure how the law would go on this one, but they've got publicity on their side, they could very easily change the site name and move on.
 

manimal

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Wonder how soon apple will get in on this. They had the macbook a longtime before facebook didnt they?


What about jesus. he had the goodbook didnt he?
 

Linflas

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Guess Google better get busy suing all those tube derivations out there. By this logic they own the word "tube".
 

Thump553

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Under the US legal system, you can basically sue anyone for anything and risk little more than the attorney fees you put into the case. The fact that Facebook brought this lawsuit is legally meaningless unless and until a court upholds their position.

From the very trivial amount I know of tradename and trademark law, I'd say Facebook has a real longshot here-I certainly wouldn't bank on them winning. What they are probably trying to do is to force the upstart to spend so much on legal fees defending the case that the company is stifled or goes under. US free enterprise, isn't it great?
 

Fingolfin269

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Does anyone really think the owner(s) of 'Teachbook' didn't come up with the name because they were trying to make a Facebook for teachers?
 

piasabird

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It is obviously a copy cat of facebook. You would think union teachers would be smarter than that. They need to at least be able to think for themselves and come up with something original. Too bad teachers in public schools are lacking in original thought and creativity.

If you are in competition with facebook and then give your group a similar name then you are asking for trouble. Hope they like the liberal judges in Illinois.
 

evident

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should MS start suing companies who have programs named win"whatever"? or apple suing things w/ iWhatever?
 

dahunan

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if it is a copy ... so what.. how can they own the name book though.. this is real slippery slope here.. what next?

Teachbook should win and just be forced to put a link on their page that says they are not affiliated with facebook in any way whatsoever and add a link to facebook

this will just get worse
 

Linflas

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Does anyone really think the owner(s) of 'Teachbook' didn't come up with the name because they were trying to make a Facebook for teachers?

I suspect that like TeacherTube they are trying to make a site that teachers can use that will not be blocked by content filtering that most school systems use.