The Windows 10 privacy nightmare continues...

[John Connor]

Another tool... did I say tool? HA! I meant utility. http://www.pcgamer.com/use-ultimate-windows-tweaker-to-deal-with-windows-10s-privacy-settings/

 

[destrekor]

People overreact, obviously.

As software does more and more things, guess what, some data HAS to go back to the source to make things work.

How do you think Cortana can do anything useful? It's not a learning AI built right into your device, it's a networked algorithm that requires data from multiple users to be anything of use.
For it to integrate into your life, it needs multiple types of data from the system.

Most of the data that Microsoft and Google use for the assistants isn't going to be much use for advertising - it will go further to enrich learning algorithms and the idea of the personal assistant, which helps them sell their service to you. Some of the data, sure, will also be of use to advertise things, but as the services grow, they do need data to do so.

If you want your OS static and not becoming more useful over time (do you want a constant Linux? A constant Windows XP?), then sure, you can object to all of the things the new devices are attempting to do for us. But software and hardware is attempting to further integrate not just to sell us more advertised goods, but to actually be more useful. The more useful they are, the more we'll continue to buy the products associated with that brand. The more we do that, the more the "IoT" and "connected self" will actually become far more practical and beneficial.

Don't get me wrong, there are some privacy concerns - but no matter what, people will be distrustful. They could tell the absolute truth about what they do with the data, but people like yourself would never believe them.

If you don't care for the future of the IoT and connected self, then by all means, continue to use archaic software that never reports home and never learns and remains a static tool to simply launches software you choose. Those will exist for some time still, but will become increasingly rare as people decide they don't do enough. Progress marches on, people want more.

 

[Phoenix86]

Except of all of them the government is the most interested in spying on you. At worst, MS/Google want to make money by targeted advertising. The government just wants control. They are certainly not the solution, unless we clear house and get guys in there that actually respect privacy (good luck... we'll need it).

Government wants lots of things, we allow them to get those things. There will be a privacy fiasco that will swing the pendulum back to privacy. It hasn't happened yet though. I figured Snowden stuff would have helped push it, but it wasn't enough momentum it seems.

 

[TeknoBug]

Another tool... did I say tool? HA! I meant utility. http://www.pcgamer.com/use-ultimate-windows-tweaker-to-deal-with-windows-10s-privacy-settings/

Not interested in third party .exe's, most of these can be fixed with enteries in regedit or gpedit anyways.

 

[John Connor]

Not interested in third party .exe's, most of these can be fixed with enteries in regedit or gpedit anyways.

Of course, but it's easier just to have a convenient app right there.

I have a Windows app that allows me to fix a whole host of Windows problems. The name escapes me ATM, but it's easier than running all kinds of commands and crap. The beauty of code to do complex work for us humans, huh?

 

[John Connor]

People overreact, obviously.

As software does more and more things, guess what, some data HAS to go back to the source to make things work.

How do you think Cortana can do anything useful? It's not a learning AI built right into your device, it's a networked algorithm that requires data from multiple users to be anything of use.
For it to integrate into your life, it needs multiple types of data from the system.

Most of the data that Microsoft and Google use for the assistants isn't going to be much use for advertising - it will go further to enrich learning algorithms and the idea of the personal assistant, which helps them sell their service to you. Some of the data, sure, will also be of use to advertise things, but as the services grow, they do need data to do so.

If you want your OS static and not becoming more useful over time (do you want a constant Linux? A constant Windows XP?), then sure, you can object to all of the things the new devices are attempting to do for us. But software and hardware is attempting to further integrate not just to sell us more advertised goods, but to actually be more useful. The more useful they are, the more we'll continue to buy the products associated with that brand. The more we do that, the more the "IoT" and "connected self" will actually become far more practical and beneficial.

Don't get me wrong, there are some privacy concerns - but no matter what, people will be distrustful. They could tell the absolute truth about what they do with the data, but people like yourself would never believe them.

If you don't care for the future of the IoT and connected self, then by all means, continue to use archaic software that never reports home and never learns and remains a static tool to simply launches software you choose. Those will exist for some time still, but will become increasingly rare as people decide they don't do enough. Progress marches on, people want more.

Why not just allow a OS to burrow up inside our butt's and take a snap shot of our colons and publish it to a website?

I suppose people will get used to machines living in their house recording audio and video of every thing they do as well. The future is full of the complacency of fools. Amazon brought this to market already. The FBI, NSA, the media and all the other alphabet soup agencies are going to love this technology.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Why not just allow a OS to burrow up inside our butt's and take a snap shot of our colons and publish it to a website?

I suppose people will get used to machines living in their house recording audio and video of every thing they do as well. The future is full of the complacency of fools. Amazon brought this to market already. The FBI, NSA, the media and all the other alphabet soup agencies are going to love this technology.

Again, what data is Windows 10 uploading that is a breech of your privacy? Everything you do online is already being captured...

 

[Rubycon]

Don't use a MS account to sign in, majority of your "problems" solved.

Oh and if you use Android and have a Google account for play store... :biggrin:

Ditto for iOS...

Even if you have a dumb phone or really old smart phone like an iphone 2G with no GPS, etc. IMEI is tied to SIM and account, etc.

And a lot of places in the 'States with electronic toll collecting "tags" are being "counted" at many checkpoints besides toll booths.

And lots of deputy patrol cars are equipped with cameras taking pictures of license plates to see where you've been...

So unless you're truly off grid and stay in a cave, (or live at sea in international waters haha!) the Man is watching you...

 

[JEDIYoda]

Why not just allow a OS to burrow up inside our butt's and take a snap shot of our colons and publish it to a website?

I suppose people will get used to machines living in their house recording audio and video of every thing they do as well. The future is full of the complacency of fools. Amazon brought this to market already. The FBI, NSA, the media and all the other alphabet soup agencies are going to love this technology.

hahahahaaaa your way too funny!!

 

[Mem]

Why not just allow a OS to burrow up inside our butt's and take a snap shot of our colons and publish it to a website?

I suppose people will get used to machines living in their house recording audio and video of every thing they do as well. The future is full of the complacency of fools. Amazon brought this to market already. The FBI, NSA, the media and all the other alphabet soup agencies are going to love this technology.

With respect I still think you are overreacting, do you wear a tin foil hat when you go out .

When you go out do you switch off your phone.

Built your faraday cage.

End of the day you don't have to install Win10 if you are that paranoid about your privacy.

Jokes aside you have plenty of alternatives to Win10 so not an issue.

 

[JackMDS]

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